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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Best year front axle for SAS

Im starting to gather up parts for my next years SAS on the ol Tacoma. Im wondering whats the best years of toyota front axles to use. I wasnt sure if the width has changed through the years.. Thanks
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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85 to 91 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. The non vacuum disconnect type. Toyota axle is a little too narrow.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by i_love_tacos
Toyota axle is a little too narrow.
And drops on the wrong side.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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dana super 35 , 40,or 44 (pulled from jeeps various years) also i don;t know if you guys do this but a ford 8' has a removable 3rd member which is cool so you can swap out lockers and gears on the trail in a few minutes, (or is it the 9 inch that has that?) either way it's cool!

also if your looking at the dana 44 make sure you go with the iron housing as no lockers are made for the lighter slightly
stronger dana44-A(luminum)(there's one company aussie and they do 1 run every 4 years and big $$$ and good luck getting one)

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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But if you go with Toyota go '84-85, they have the most factory gussets. Unless you plan to reinforce it yourself, in which case it doesn't matter what year.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Thanks guys...I didnt know that about the jeep axles...
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 83
But if you go with Toyota go '84-85, they have the most factory gussets. Unless you plan to reinforce it yourself, in which case it doesn't matter what year.
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And drops on the wrong side.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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If you have to ask this question, you don't need a SAS.

Tons of info out there in the Solid Axle Swap section below, I would recommend you read through there for all the various options.

But since this is the Newbie Section, the answer to your question is:
2009 Diamond Axle housing
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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yup i'd go diamond FTW

I have planned a taco SAS and that is what I came up with.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
If you have to ask this question, you don't need a SAS.

Tons of info out there in the Solid Axle Swap section below, I would recommend you read through there for all the various options.

But since this is the Newbie Section, the answer to your question is:
2009 Diamond Axle housing
if you have to ask questions about off roading and your truck does that mean you dont need to be 4wheeling? If thats the case then this site should just shut down..




and thanks again to everyone for the help..
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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go passenger drop and give me your crawler box
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bain
if you have to ask questions about off roading and your truck does that mean you dont need to be 4wheeling? If thats the case then this site should just shut down..




and thanks again to everyone for the help..
He has a valid point, this topic has been beat to death.
Looks like you have some good info in here already though.

Good luck with the swap.

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4Fink
He has a valid point, this topic has been beat to death.
Looks like you have some good info in here already though.

Good luck with the swap.

Fink
i agree..it just hit me the wrong way...and yes...my question was answered.


and thanks..
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by crolison
go passenger drop and give me your crawler box
by passenger side drop do you mean the diffs on the passenger side? im about afraid to ask questions anymore




and heck no!!!! i lub my crawler!!!!
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bain
i agree..it just hit me the wrong way...and yes...my question was answered.


and thanks..
I understand, it's all good man.
Either way, at least the thread was posted in a good section.

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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bain
by passenger side drop do you mean the diffs on the passenger side? im about afraid to ask questions anymore




and heck no!!!! i lub my crawler!!!!
Exactly. Chain driven cases like the case in the Tacoma are a driver side drop so the diff is on the driver side. Older yotas had gear driven cases that dropped on the passenger side. If you plan on running dual cases, which I highly recommend, you can get a setup to drop on the opposite side.
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cubuff4runner
Exactly. Chain driven cases like the case in the Tacoma are a driver side drop so the diff is on the driver side. Older yotas had gear driven cases that dropped on the passenger side. If you plan on running dual cases, which I highly recommend, you can get a setup to drop on the opposite side.
Pretacoma chain drive cases were passenger drop too.

What side drop isn't really a factor if your SAS budget includes dual cases as there are adapters/options for either way:

Driver drop:
"Tacobox" - use your existing chain drive case with a gear drive reduction in front
Inchworm Lefty - gear drive driver side drop case. Can install a gear drive doubler in front too.

Passenger drop:
Gear drive cases with adapter
MC10 adapter with chain drive case

Then throw in Atlas, etc which you can get either way, and there are a ton of options depending what transfer case reduction and axle you want to run.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by theizzardking
dana super 35 , 40,or 44 (pulled from jeeps various years) also i don;t know if you guys do this but a ford 8' has a removable 3rd member which is cool so you can swap out lockers and gears on the trail in a few minutes, (or is it the 9 inch that has that?) either way it's cool!

also if your looking at the dana 44 make sure you go with the iron housing as no lockers are made for the lighter slightly
stronger dana44-A(luminum)(there's one company aussie and they do 1 run every 4 years and big $$$ and good luck getting one)
This is full of mis-information.

A Dana 35 was never put in the front of a Jeep. It was a Dana 30 or Dana 44 front.

The Aluminum Dana 44 was only put into the rear end of a Grand Cherokee. Never even had the option in the front. A Dana 40??? Never existed in a Jeep or at all IIRC.

Ford has a drop out 3rd in a 9", but again its a rear only application. Only way to get one up front is to go with a custom axle housing.

As said, the Dana 44 from the Waggie is the cheapest option to get the axle itself. Too bad its a lot more $$$ to build it properly to handle big tires. Highsteer, lockers, gears, install kits, cromoly axles, CTM U-joints, etc are all MUCH more expensive to get for the Dana 44 than they are for a Diamond axle. Overall, its more expensive to build the Dana 44 than it would be to build a similar Diamond axle. IMO, the Diamond axle is the way to go.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by theizzardking
dana super 35 , 40,or 44 (pulled from jeeps various years) also i don;t know if you guys do this but a ford 8' has a removable 3rd member which is cool so you can swap out lockers and gears on the trail in a few minutes, (or is it the 9 inch that has that?) either way it's cool!

What kind of set up is this? I would love to see any SFA that somehow allows the diff to be pulled and replaced in a few minutes. Especially on the trail.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottyC
This is full of mis-information.

A Dana 35 was never put in the front of a Jeep. It was a Dana 30 or Dana 44 front.

The Aluminum Dana 44 was only put into the rear end of a Grand Cherokee. Never even had the option in the front. A Dana 40??? Never existed in a Jeep or at all IIRC.

Ford has a drop out 3rd in a 9", but again its a rear only application. Only way to get one up front is to go with a custom axle housing.

As said, the Dana 44 from the Waggie is the cheapest option to get the axle itself. Too bad its a lot more $$$ to build it properly to handle big tires. Highsteer, lockers, gears, install kits, cromoly axles, CTM U-joints, etc are all MUCH more expensive to get for the Dana 44 than they are for a Diamond axle. Overall, its more expensive to build the Dana 44 than it would be to build a similar Diamond axle. IMO, the Diamond axle is the way to go.

not to step on any toes....
he never said money was a problem so doing a rear to front axle conversion was never an issue i considered,as running jeeps most my life i never had to do a sas but more of rear to front swaps or just building up the existing solid axles. i was thinking if he was going to get this involved he might want to consider all of the options regardless of price and effort, in the end it's his job to check the information and figure out what is going to work best for him, i'm never going to tell anyone what to do, just give them options that they have and ones that i know of. i am not a god just a dude who knows
a lil, of course some know more and some know less, i think nothing i said above was mis-information i think i should have stated that that he may need a axle housing fab job to install them, the axels i listed are still dam fine for off-roading .

also your wrong dana 35 was used in the zj(gc) and xj(Cherokee)series of jeep
http://www.trailquest.com/axles/jeep-factory-axle.shtml
with fairly cheap super kits
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUPER...QQcmdZViewItem
i have also seen them used as a front axle after swapping the shafts out and building them up. it all depends on your needs, light vs strong vs money vs options for them i can never hope to take all of that into account with a 5 min posting.

yeah dana 40 your right no such thing, i meant a dana 60 sorry about that dumb ass mistake. i am an idiot lol, that said i still see nothing wrong with using jeep rears in a yota front......

here's some info on the ford 9 inch with removable carrier
http://www.cometeastcarclub.org/ford9in.html
http://www.sunrayengineering.com/nine.html


**never checked into diamond axles more of a junk yard-dyi rat it maybe a better option as they are pretty cool **

to the op :as with anything on any forum anywhere check your information and do your own homework before purchasing.... i know a really cool way you can port and polish your intake and exhaust...
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267
(this guys was told todo this by someone on the forum.. another good reason todo your own research as well)

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