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I'm looking into getting a 3rd gen 4runner and am wondering what peoples thoughts on the auto tranny and standard tranny are. What do you guys recommend?
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Wow, you will get a lot of different responses on this. I think the most important questions are:
Have you ever driven stick before? (i'm guessing yes)
Is it a daily driver? (some people don't mind driving stick everyday, personally I do)
Will you be taking it off road? (again, I prefer auto off road, little easier, but many prefer stick)
With that being said, I have had a few trucks that were stick, mostly Fords, and they were tough as faras daily drivers go, long ass throw, and hard clutch. I've driven a stick Taco, and the clutch was pretty smooth, but the throw was still long. It is a little more fun to drive stick I think, but offroad, it seems to be a little tougher, especially in some tighter spots. I also live in NJ, and there is some nasty traffic, and I hated using a stick while in traffic. I like the auto on my truck, makes it nice and easy to drive. They still have ECT on the autos, so if you turn it on, it delays the shift, and you can get a ?decent? amount of acceleration. So, it is a tough call, and like I said, you will porbably get a bunch of different answers.
Have you ever driven stick before? (i'm guessing yes)
Is it a daily driver? (some people don't mind driving stick everyday, personally I do)
Will you be taking it off road? (again, I prefer auto off road, little easier, but many prefer stick)
With that being said, I have had a few trucks that were stick, mostly Fords, and they were tough as faras daily drivers go, long ass throw, and hard clutch. I've driven a stick Taco, and the clutch was pretty smooth, but the throw was still long. It is a little more fun to drive stick I think, but offroad, it seems to be a little tougher, especially in some tighter spots. I also live in NJ, and there is some nasty traffic, and I hated using a stick while in traffic. I like the auto on my truck, makes it nice and easy to drive. They still have ECT on the autos, so if you turn it on, it delays the shift, and you can get a ?decent? amount of acceleration. So, it is a tough call, and like I said, you will porbably get a bunch of different answers.
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I agree with Jason. I had a stick Taco 4x4 and it drove very well but off road on really technical stuff it was really difficult. With the auto in my Runner I can focus on the line more and enjoy myself. Old thought on this was that the manuals were just more reliable but autos have come along way and rarely do you hear of a guy who properly maintains an auto tranny having trouble below 150,000 miles in a Toyota.
I vote auto.
I vote auto.
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if your going do rockcrawling and slow trail wheeling then a auto is what want you if your just going to play around in the mud and stuff where you dont have to go really slow than manual is fine
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I vote manual.
Toyota automatic are one of the worst I've ever seen. They have horrible shift points. They feel almost as bad as GM transmissions.
Save yourself the headaches. No one wants to be driving an auto in traffic. Of road, it gets worse. You will have very little engine braking. You'll be at the whims of the transmission about when it is going to shift and have very little control over how the vehicle will react.
Toyota automatic are one of the worst I've ever seen. They have horrible shift points. They feel almost as bad as GM transmissions.
Save yourself the headaches. No one wants to be driving an auto in traffic. Of road, it gets worse. You will have very little engine braking. You'll be at the whims of the transmission about when it is going to shift and have very little control over how the vehicle will react.
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No one wants to be driving an auto in traffic.
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I would like the easy/lazyness of the auto the 4runner will be a daily driver and city traffic can be bad when i have to shift all the time. The only reasons i was considering manual was because there is more power and you have more control. The point about someone else driving my rig is a good one as none of my friends drive stick.
I will want to be lifting the truck a little and putting bigger tires on. Can the auto handle this? or would standard be better. Chances are i will not be offroading to often and when i do it will be very easy stuff. If i were to get a 2nd gen i would defiently go for stick but for 3rd gens i am not sure if stick would still be better.
I will want to be lifting the truck a little and putting bigger tires on. Can the auto handle this? or would standard be better. Chances are i will not be offroading to often and when i do it will be very easy stuff. If i were to get a 2nd gen i would defiently go for stick but for 3rd gens i am not sure if stick would still be better.
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Originally Posted by daveylo
If i were to get a 2nd gen i would defiently go for stick but for 3rd gens i am not sure if stick would still be better.
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I had a manual on my 92Runner and it was pretty good as far as shifting ease. Clutch was good, and i didnt find it to be too far of a throw. Switching gears was a sintch, as it seemed to just fall in place. I have driven some other vehicles and it felt like i had to find the next gear. My 99 is an auto and I enjoy it for the ease of use and especially with the way my city is setup. tonnes of lights within a block of eachother. I do agree that at some times I am not happy with the shift points but that may be just my style of driving. And now with an auto i can drink a coffee, change my radio, talk on the cell phone, and scratch my ass all at the same time (just kidding, except the last one)
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i can drink a coffee, change my radio, talk on the cell phone, and scratch my ass all at the same time (just kidding, except the last one)
i like my 5sp. my buddy just did a 5sp conversion on his 93 and he said the power difference was night and day. i dont know if that will still apply to a 3rd gen tho. wheeling with a manual isnt that hard either. put it in 4lo, and now you can use all 5 gears as you need them. i never use 4hi, if i need 4wd then i need to be going slow enough for 4lo. i vote manual. but thats my $0.02
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Originally Posted by JackKnife
I vote manual.
Toyota automatic are one of the worst I've ever seen. They have horrible shift points. They feel almost as bad as GM transmissions.
Save yourself the headaches. No one wants to be driving an auto in traffic. Of road, it gets worse. You will have very little engine braking. You'll be at the whims of the transmission about when it is going to shift and have very little control over how the vehicle will react.
Toyota automatic are one of the worst I've ever seen. They have horrible shift points. They feel almost as bad as GM transmissions.
Save yourself the headaches. No one wants to be driving an auto in traffic. Of road, it gets worse. You will have very little engine braking. You'll be at the whims of the transmission about when it is going to shift and have very little control over how the vehicle will react.
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Originally Posted by Elton
yeah gm autos suck i have to drive them for work they love to hunt for gears thats way i hate autos
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i just got back from wheeling with my 5spd and i love the control of wheeling a manual. I also use it as a daily driver, i honistly don't notice or even think about shifting so it's not a big deal. also i think it is funner to drive a manual as a DD you can make your truck do so many more fun things. wee.
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Originally Posted by Paul H.
What happens if you hurt your leg. Car sits for awhile if standard. You can still drive an auto. I much perfer an auto.
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