kountry

okay guys heres my first post, which will be followed by alot more. I just bought this toyota from a buddy( never had a yota before). Its a 86 single cab 4x4, 250,000 miles 5spd. with the 22re turbo motor, but the turbo isnt on it. Im guessing at some point the turbo went bad and whoever had it before my buddy decided to just put a header on it. Now heres what I know, there is no 02 sensor on it right now because there isnt a bung in the header for it, and the throttle position sensor is gone, like not attached lol. Now i can drive the truck around like it its and under acceleration it spits and sputters, then when you give it more gas it clears out, and up at cruising speeds 50+ its fine. It seems to be way low on power obviously, but all ive ever had was either v-8s or turbo diesels, so im probably not the best judge of that. To start things off i just picked up a tps and put it on. got about a half mile down the road and the truck died, would not crank back up. pulled it back to the house, took the brand new tps off and it started right up! im sure theres a ton of stuff going on so please enlighten me fellas

kountry

also i figure its probably a lower compression motor than a normal 22re since its a turbo motor so power wise without the turbo would be less. Im considering getting another turbo and mounting all that back up.

kountry

dang no ideas ? or am i beyond all hope lol

sebastianholmes

is it a 22re or a 22rte? if its a 22rte, and the turbo isnt there, something is telling me.. ONE SHOULD PROBABLY BE THERE . dont get another stock CT-20 they suckkk. get an aftermarket turbo. oh and, try searching!

EDIT: i just saw you have 33's, thats got some to do with power loss. look into regearing.

kountry

its the 22rte or 22rtec or whatever in the hell its called, ive seen everyone calling it something different, its the factory turbo motor lol.

dropzone

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there is a difference in the compression ratio of 22RE vs. 22RTE heads..
Compression Ratio: 9.3:1 (7.5:1 RET)


edit found this:

sebastianholmes

do some searching. you need to get a turbo back on it. i know almost nothing about turbo motors, but if its meant to have it and its not there it just cant be good for it. i say again, search

tried4x2signN

You're going about this the wrong way...

The FIRST thing you needed to do was track your "buddy" back down and punch him square in the face... (B/c contrary to popular belief, this is NOT how you fix things)


Thennnn try searching....

Both the RTE pistons AND the head are different allowing a 7.5:1 c/r where a regular RE is 9.3:1.

sebastianholmes

what are you guys talking about? it has the right head and pistons. his buddy put a new headER on it

wrxnefx06

It has to have the 22re head. No way could he get that thing running at 50+mph with stock gearing and 33's with a 22rte head and no turbo.

xxxtreme22r

even with the re head, it's still not gonna be right. The compression is still gonna be somewhat off, but it will go up since the chamber size is smaller on the head. By how much, who knows. It's got the rte ECU as well, placing an re head on it is gonna do absolutely nothing if the turbo ECU is on there. As well as the AFM is the turbo AFM. Then there is the higher flow rate injectors.

Replace the turbo or replace the motor, ECU, AFM, and INJECTORS. Choice is yours. Doing anything else is NOT gonna solve your issues.

tried4x2signN

Sadly, this is NOT the 1st time I've heard of some... one, doing this.

My guess is the larger injectors Turbo's have... And my next logical guess is that it's no longer fuel efficient...


I'm not angry at these things... It's morons "fixing" things then bad mouthing Toyota's when their "fix" really didn't solve a dang thing.

kountry

ok guys as far as i know, it still has the rte head on on, i doubt whoever did this before i got had the skill to change the head out too lol. My buddy says that he has the turbo parts, manifold, turbo(bad), etc that the guy he got it from gave him. so im going to see what all he has and go from there. as far as driving wise ive noticed that on cold start it fires right up idles smooth and wont spit and sputter for a little while until it warms up. and as far as gearing goes, im assuming they are still stock.

and im searching as everyone says

sebastianholmes

dude look, get an aftermarket turbo and the rest of the stuff from your friend and install it. the end.

kountry

yep thats pretty much the plan

kountry

ok guys havent put the turbo stuff on yet, but ive been messing with it and im getting it better! put the tps back on, adjusted it and the idle is perfect!!!! now thanks to my searching on here I think I figured out why the truck is hard to start after it has run for a little while. Ive had to hold it to the floor to crank it back up, so i cracked the fuel line at the cold start injector, and it started right up, several people were saying in a different post that it was the fuel pressure regulator, does that sound right? Thanks a ton for everyones help so far. this forum is fantastic.

tried4x2signN

lol, what a shock!


Search CT20 or CT 20 or any other variation of that, and you can find out what a POS it is.


Then, you can find out that bolting the CT26 from a Supra 7MGTE is almost a bolt-on, and without question a better Turbo.

And don't let the size fool you. They put CT26's (Ok, maybe a different spec) on Celica All-Trac Turbo's with the 3S-GTE and it was 2.0L and had 200h.p/ 200ft/lbs.