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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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What is this and how do I remove it?



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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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The rust or the item with the electrical wire?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Well, the whole circular thing on the left. Does the entire circle come off, or just the wire/plug? I've got a new gas tank on the way, so I was working on beginning to take things apart tonight. Thanks
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Believe thats your fuel level gauge. A screw driver or drill usually, but in your case a chisel and a grinder.

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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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yes it should unplug, the wire I mean.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Ok, thanks
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Ok, so the gas tank is out of the truck, and I drained all nine gallons of gas from it. I left the drain plug out and the filler neck is removed, so it can air out a little. I'd like to use an angle grinder on some of the rusted screws that hold on the sending unit and the fuel pump. However, I don't want to go up in a ball of flames. If I spray the outside and inside of the tank with the hose, will that be good enough to ensure safety?

Also, if I do spray the inside of the tank, could that damage the sending unit or pump?

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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I am not a certified welder by any means, but I believe that the advice for sparks and gas tanks is to fill it completely with water. You don't want any air space inside there (air + gas + spark = bad news).
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Josh,
Take the tank to a pro for whatever you need done do it. They will know what to do to avoid the big boom.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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You know....I was reading a bit online about this sort of thing, and it's a little scary, at least for the backyard mechanic. I *might* be able to get the fuel pump out without grinding. I don't think there is any hope for the sending unit, but I found a new one at Advance Auto for about $25 or $30. Might go that route...
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Got the fuel pump out.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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At least have the tank full of water. I have worked on tanks but only in cold weather. I dont work on them in warm weather and if there are any fumes, that is when it is dangerous. I have seen the return lines clogged. Here is some info that might help you.




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I got a tank out of my parts truck and it was loaded with rust and so was the pump. I surprised the truck even ran. Filter was all plugged up. I spent quite a bit of time cleaning the tank out. First I drained it and tapped the outside with a rubber hammer to break the thick rust loose. Put a little water in to avoid sparks and put some chain and rocked it back and forth to get more loose and then I let it soak with some vinegar in it. I found this on the web. It actually came pretty clean. Have heard of using The Works toilet bowl cleaner from K Mart.

http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Removi...rom_a_gas_tank Several products you can use.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4540637_remo...-gas-tank.html

http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-3687.html

I have a friend that works in a parts store and he suggested Red Kote to coat the tank. I have coated it and am waiting for my new fuel pump to come in. I ready to get the tank in and see if this thing fires up.

I dont mess with tanks in the summer. The fumes are what are dangerous.

I bought the fuel pump off of ebay from "carpartswholesale" for $27.85 plus cheap shipping. Parts store wanted $150


This "J" line likes to get clogged. Check all of them, but most likely this one will be clogged.


New $25 dollar fuel pump. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Fuel-Pum...item35b6422050
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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I would let a shop do it, but I've seen it done with a hose off the exhaust, run into the tank, and engine running. Let it idle about 5 minutes, and went to town on it. Looked sketch, though.

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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I have heard that done. It rids the tank of oxygen. If it is below freezing, I am not afraid to work on a tank. Not showing your state location, so figured I would err on the safe side, not knowing your tempertures. Just watch for fumes.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrys87
I have heard that done. It rids the tank of oxygen. If it is below freezing, I am not afraid to work on a tank. Not showing your state location, so figured I would err on the safe side, not knowing your tempertures. Just watch for fumes.
Yeah, it made sense, just looked weird. Old tweakers, they're good for some tricks.

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrys87
I have heard that done. It rids the tank of oxygen. If it is below freezing, I am not afraid to work on a tank. Not showing your state location, so figured I would err on the safe side, not knowing your tempertures. Just watch for fumes.
Terrys87, I would be careful with welding on a tank, no matter the temperature, and I would be particularly careful with dispensing that advice online. While I could probably run the numbers and compare the Henry's constant of gasoline (though it is a mixture of many chemicals) with the LEL, I think that I will just state that I would not weld on a gas tank unless it were completely full or water or had in some other way had either all of the gas or all of the oxygen removed.

I am a born and bred Show Me State-er, and have the uncle who cannot smell anymore after having a gas tank blow up in his face to prove it.

I actually really like the idea of running exhaust into the tank. Talk about an easy way to remove all oxygen, especially if the vehicle has a cat. converter.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Hello Strumcrow..I would never weld on a tank. An empty 20 year old tank is still dangerous. The metal is porous and still holds residue. I meant just working on one in general. I have cleaned tanks, but I only work on them in the winter, Beyond cleaning them and coating it and I just replace it.

I knew some run an exhuast into a tank for that reason to rid of oxygen, I still wouldnt weld on it. With or without a converter to me it just isnt worth it.
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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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I'm in PA. It is about 28 degrees this morning.

Thanks guys for your input and ideas. Last night, I did order a new gauge sending unit from Advance Auto. It was $26 plus tax. I figure that is cheaper than having a shop remove the old rusty sending unit from the tank, and plus it will be new. That is supposed to be in Tuesday, then I can button things up and get back on the road
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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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Josh Br.. When you get your sending unit, can you post a pic of it. I have one I need to replace as well. Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrys87
Hello Strumcrow..I would never weld on a tank. An empty 20 year old tank is still dangerous. The metal is porous and still holds residue. I meant just working on one in general. I have cleaned tanks, but I only work on them in the winter, Beyond cleaning them and coating it and I just replace it.

I knew some run an exhuast into a tank for that reason to rid of oxygen, I still wouldnt weld on it. With or without a converter to me it just isnt worth it.
Glad to hear it. I misunderstood and thought you were advocating hot work on a tank if it were cold outside. Sorry for the confusion.
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