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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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I'd suggest you either talk down the price significantly or keep shopping for another truck. If you do buy this truck, and are going to swap engines, why go to all that expense to put a smaller less powerful engine in your truck?

Put a new more reliable and high tech engine like the 3.4 in there if you are going to swap and do it AFTER the 3.0 blows up. (which could be a nice long time)

The 3.0's have had lots of head gasket issues that are fixable and likely have been on yours. The rest of the engine is very tough. You'd be amazed at how many 3.0's are in trucks with high 200,000's mileage in otherwise untouched unmodded engines.

If you are concerned, look into cleaning/replacing the oil pump. Some 3.0's when they approach 300,000 miles seem to have main or con-rod bearing failures due to poor lubrication. Whether its because of sludge build up or just wear I'm not sure but from what I have read replacing the oil pump around that time is accepted wisdom so to speak.


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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by thook
What makes you think it will need a new motor soon, anyway? You said it runs "strong".....so, what's the problem?

$2k is too much, regardless. Talk 'em down.
THE PROB IS IT GOTS 380,000 MILES. THATS ALOT IM SURE I WILL NEED ONE SOON. AND IT DOES RUNS STRONG. IT WOULD SPIN THE TIRES EVERY STOP. AND WAS TEARIN UP THE SOFT SAND WITH THE 4X4
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Well I Dont Know How Much Lower Hell Go But Does 1500 Sound Like A Better Price?
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Hmmmm.....if it's running strong, not smoking, not knocking, getting decent mileage (for the 3.0) you never know. You could get another 100k on it.....being that it's 250k on the rebuild. If it's lasted this long, sounds like the rebuild was done well. And hopefully it was maintained well.

Were it me, I'd get it (for less than 2k....start low as you can...$1300, maybe) and wait for the motor to actually start showing signs of going south. Then, put another V6 in. Either a 3.0....if it's in good shape from a trustworthy source...or a 3.4.

On second thought, if it's an automatic...pass.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by thook
Hmmmm.....if it's running strong, not smoking, not knocking, getting decent mileage (for the 3.0) you never know. You could get another 100k on it.....being that it's 250k on the rebuild. If it's lasted this long, sounds like the rebuild was done well. And hopefully it was maintained well.

Were it me, I'd get it (for less than 2k....start low as you can...$1300, maybe) and wait for the motor to actually start showing signs of going south. Then, put another V6 in. Either a 3.0....if it's in good shape from a trustworthy source...or a 3.4.

On second thought, if it's an automatic...pass.
NO KNOCKIN, NO SMOKIN, 5SPD 4X4 INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION, SUPPOSED REBUILT(NOT SURE) NO RUST NO DENTS. LOL NOW YOU GUYS GOT ME WANTIN IT. PREMIUM GAS ONLY AND REGULAR TUNE UP

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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If it's that good and you can get it 1500 go for it.

Seriously though, I had 300,000 on my original engine pulling 33's, 5.5" of lift, etc... (lots more weight and drag = harder working engine = shortened engine life) and it was like you described. It burned no oil, hardly leaked, didn't smoke, etc... a good engine is a good engine.

Don't buy it then fix it if it is not broken unless you are looking for a performance upgrade which is a different story altogether.


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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by elripster
If it's that good and you can get it 1500 go for it.

Seriously though, I had 300,000 on my original engine pulling 33's, 5.5" of lift, etc... (lots more weight and drag = harder working engine = shortened engine life) and it was like you described. It burned no oil, hardly leaked, didn't smoke, etc... a good engine is a good engine.

Don't buy it then fix it if it is not broken unless you are looking for a performance upgrade which is a different story altogether.


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NOT GUNA DO THE SWAP RIGHT AWAY BUT I WANT THE ENGINE SITTIN THEIR AND READY FOR WEN THE DAY DOES COME
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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I'd find a wrecked Tacoma and use it as a donor.

Search on 3.4 and swap and you'll find lots of info. It's the most straight forward option for a V6 truck.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by elripster
I'd find a wrecked Tacoma and use it as a donor.

Search on 3.4 and swap and you'll find lots of info. It's the most straight forward option for a V6 truck.

Frank
um how difficult?? im pretty good with gettin my hands dirty. ive swapped a couple of engines before but same motors. a civic, 22re, bug, ect... not good with fab new mounts and stuff like that
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Read up at http://wwwoffroadsolutions.com

You'll have a few issues with hood clearence, but it is a relatively easy swap, since the engines are both in the same family (3VZ to 5VZ).

It's a GREAT swap, BTW!
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by breknraj
Read up at http://wwwoffroadsolutions.com

You'll have a few issues with hood clearence, but it is a relatively easy swap, since the engines are both in the same family (3VZ to 5VZ).

It's a GREAT swap, BTW!
well thats not a prob, (im a mini trucker. i also own a bagged mighty max).....CUT IT!!!! ok well the link didnt work. wat does that engine come off of? im new to this engine. my dad is the toyota nut but he sticks to his 22R and 22RE. any other forums on hear that break it down?
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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I think there is a period missing in the link.

www.offroadsolutions.com

This is the 3.4L V6 found in the 95.5 to 200-something tacomas and 4runners.

It's a common swap but I have not done it yet (and hope not to have to for a long time). Again, search on 3.4, swap, etc... and you'll have reading material for a good long while.

Frank
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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any california people got the 6 cylinder enigne they didnt need? or know any local places? time is runnin out on me
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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any california people got the 6 cylinder enigne they didnt need? or know any local places? time is runnin out on me
Did you buy the truck?

Frank
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elripster
Did you buy the truck?

Frank
I HAVENT YET. STILL NOT SURE IF I SHOULD GET IT
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hross14
I think only Volvo makes a V4--therfore i would suggest maybe getting an Inline 4cylinder engine instead of the V4. V6 versus Inline 4--i have never really heard of a backwards swap--but if they are that rare and hard to get i guess it would be a reason.
Actually, it was Ford that built and used a V4 in some cars for the European market. Saab also made use of the engine for their 94, 95 & 96 models in the late 60's & early 70's.
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