turbo a 22-re?
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turbo a 22-re?
hey im new to cars and trucks and engines so i was wondering if you could slap a turbo charger on a 22RE.
It might be a stupid question but any answers would be appreciated.
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Parker
It might be a stupid question but any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks
Parker
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well, they do have a 22RET, so it is do-able.
lceengineering has a turbo kit, but i believe its cheaper just to get parts from salvage yards and whatnot.
lceengineering has a turbo kit, but i believe its cheaper just to get parts from salvage yards and whatnot.
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well i found this so i will post this for anyone searching threads
http://www.lcengineering.com/technot...&catid=4&id=33
Thanks for the help everyone
http://www.lcengineering.com/technot...&catid=4&id=33
Thanks for the help everyone
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Yes, you can put a turbo on to a 22RE.
I ran a turbo (garrett) on a standard compression 22RE for a number of months.
Premium fuel is required. Dyno torque was up over 200 ft/lbs.
To get real power out of it, you'll need to drop compression. Easiest way to do that is to have LC Engineering cut your combustion chambers.
I ran a turbo (garrett) on a standard compression 22RE for a number of months.
Premium fuel is required. Dyno torque was up over 200 ft/lbs.
To get real power out of it, you'll need to drop compression. Easiest way to do that is to have LC Engineering cut your combustion chambers.
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I would definitely piece a kit together instead of going with the whole kit from LCE. Youll save a lot. I don't know exactly but I would say you could probably do it for a bout a grand less than an lce kit and still have a pretty trick set up. This would not include fuel management though. Depending on your year you can use Megasquirt. Ask dcg9381 about that. I went with the sds kit from lce. Lce's sds stuff is fairly reasonable becasue they get it from sds in Canada and make the brackets that taylor it specifically for the 22re. Go with the steed speed manifold. Either get it straight from Leen or you can get them from LCE as well. Probably a bit cheaper if you go straight through Leen. I would def go with larger injectors as well and possibly a larger fuel pump. Some have said they retained the stock pump but I went with a 300hp pump. Walbro I think it was.
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Actually at cruise the turbo puts out relatively low boost, unless your in a low gear and screaming the to get high boost. Not exactly what you want to do for long periods of time. The turbo is best for quick acceleration, then once the desired speed is reached boost drops off some. I find my turbo is very helpful offroad, gears or not.
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nutshell-
a stock 22re can be turbo'd
3-5 PSI (.1-.3 bar), a stock 22re and ECU can handle, done in a draw through the AFM to the turbo to the throttle.
5-7 PSI (.3 bar-.5 bar), forged pistons are required... stock ECU can handle up to about 7 PSI (.5 bar) if injectors and O2 are in great condition... timing may need retarded from stock quite a bit if fuel octane requires it.
> 7 PSI (.5 bar)- forged pistons are required, aftermarket fuel/timing management system required since the ECU doesn't respond fast enough if higher-flow injectors are used to keep fuel flow and duty cycle within stock ECU parameters- a 5th injector may help, but ensuring equal fuel distribution between cylinders is hard to accomplish with a 5th injector setup.
retrofitting a 22RTE is the only viable option, if the truck had the option of a factory turbo, if smog/emissions requirements are an issue. otherwise, later year trucks would be better served by retrofitting a 3.4l engine and getting it street legal, then installing a CARB certified supercharger.
a stock 22re can be turbo'd
3-5 PSI (.1-.3 bar), a stock 22re and ECU can handle, done in a draw through the AFM to the turbo to the throttle.
5-7 PSI (.3 bar-.5 bar), forged pistons are required... stock ECU can handle up to about 7 PSI (.5 bar) if injectors and O2 are in great condition... timing may need retarded from stock quite a bit if fuel octane requires it.
> 7 PSI (.5 bar)- forged pistons are required, aftermarket fuel/timing management system required since the ECU doesn't respond fast enough if higher-flow injectors are used to keep fuel flow and duty cycle within stock ECU parameters- a 5th injector may help, but ensuring equal fuel distribution between cylinders is hard to accomplish with a 5th injector setup.
retrofitting a 22RTE is the only viable option, if the truck had the option of a factory turbo, if smog/emissions requirements are an issue. otherwise, later year trucks would be better served by retrofitting a 3.4l engine and getting it street legal, then installing a CARB certified supercharger.
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I am looking at this right now, but I am adding it while overhauling the 22RE. I am putting low compression pistons in, do I still need them to be forged? I plan to run about 7psi boost 10 at the most to keep my fuel economy. I am doing a garrett T3 hybrid with a RET AFM and ECU and injectors. Do I still need aftermarket fuel managment with the 22RTE ECU and AFM?
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