toyotatom93

Sorry about starting another retread thread...
I have searched for info on these, but now have more questions.
Seems like people either love em, or hate em. Most reviews are good, and seems like people that hate them dont run them, they just dont like the idea of retreads.
There is one review that worries me where the tires delamed from being in the heat. Can extreme cold bring problems to compromise the tire? I live on the west coast of Canada so not to worried about the extremes, but I will be doing road trips to ski hills.

Anyway, just wondering if the people that do run retreads are happy with their tires? Hows their performance / wear?

If I could afford a set of BFG AT's I'd be all over them, but a retread at 1/3 of the price for a set is about the max I can afford right now.

Keith B.

I think some people love'em until they disintegrate at 100kph.

muddpigg

iTrader: (1)

Saw a post somewhere about guys on snowplows loving them. The Greenies are availible in North America now too.

DupermanDave

I think people don't trust them because they're retreads. If they were unsafe, do you really think they'd be able to sell them?

I was looking at buying treadwright retreads and was doing a lot of research. Statistically speaking, retreads have the same safety record as new tires. They have the same failure rate and they seem to only fail (much like new tires) because of improper usage (incorrect pressure, mistreating them, etc...)

muddpigg

iTrader: (1)

For the price, shoot.

toyotatom93

Any links to the statistics, or stuff like disintegrating?

DupermanDave

Most of the stuff I found on http://www.retread.org/ and other various sites by just using Google.

Junkers88

Buy them. I've had the same set on two different rigs and they still have a pile of tread left on them. They don't disintegrate at 100kph....

I like mine for everything except deep snow. Hell the spare has never even been on the ground.

DupermanDave

are they bad in the snow?

toyotatom93

Ugh... the shipping costs just killed the deal for me. It would be like $630+tax for a set, not really a deal at all anymore. I was hoping to not spend more than $4-500

Junkers88

I was in my 86 pickup at the time, no weight in the bed and I didn't air down at all since I didn't have an air compressor. Robb (nmtoy on here) went up this gentle little hill with a left hand turn in it on his first gen 4runner. He has 33's and 4.88's, I'm running 31's and 4.56 with a locker. Well when it was my turn all the tires that had power were spinning..... I was crossed up, mixed up, backwards and sideways before I got back off that damn hill. As a side note Robb couldn't get back up it once I was out of the way and he came back down.

They are great in town on snow packed roads, do very well in ice/rock/mud/sand/power line roads/etc.

Junkers88

What size tires are you looking at?

Ezrider_92356

i have the mt-r retreads, i ran them last winter in north dakota, no problems at -40* and they grip in deep snow very very well, and they do better on ice than i would have expected from a mud tire, and they do great in the mud too. i would say if they had no problems at negative 40 degrees Fahrenheit cold doesn't affect them. i have also run them in 100 degree heat and no issues there.

toyotatom93

31x10.5x15

CHEEZBURGER

Wow, it's only $17 each tire shipped to where I am for tires that size

rdrttoy

I like retreads for the price but back when i used to work on big rigs we got so many retreads back in the shop because of the tires would seperate from the tread. but you have to remember thats only in the summer. i had no problems in the winter with them. but when its 120 during the summer you can understand why they would fail.

toyotatom93

$285 for me, thats almost the price of the friggin tires.

Junkers88

I thought the same way. The difference is that a truck tire (big rig) is a re-cap. The re-treads that Treadwright sells are moulded back into the carcass of the tire. I took my 86 down to a trail run with a Jeep club for a weekend. Ran them at about 10 psi the entire weekend and then got a little toasted on the last night and forgot to air them back up for the drive home. It wasn't blazing hot but it was a couple hundred miles back home, not the best conditions to run an under unflated tire. Got home and realized what I'd done so I aired them back up and kept driving on them. Now those same tires are on my 4runner and are in great shape. I actually only ever rotated them once (I know I know..... bad idea) and I siped them with a box cutter last winter to gain some traction. So far so good. I don't know how many miles are on them right now but could probably ball park it.

Lets see.... bought the 86 at about 172,000 and sold it with just under 200,000. So lets say 25,000 miles just to be safe.

Put them on the runner and I've got 3 oil changes since then (5,000 miles a shot with synthetic) so 15,000 miles there.

Comes to 40,000 miles although it's probably closer to 35,000. Still have almost half they tread the came with, only one cut from a rock, no flats, no flaking or chunking of tread. I think I got my money out of them.

Like I said that estimate on miles is by no means an exact, it's just a ball park. Even if they only lasted a couple of years (back when I got them I was wheeling 3 weekends a month) or 20,000 miles I think they are worth it considering what I put them through. I think my out of pocket at that time was just under 400$ for five tires shipped. I remember that shipping was like 75$ and I was a little miffed because that was about the cost of another tire.

Junkers88

I just noticed where you are located so I understand that amount for shipping.

How much is a similar tire from Goodyear or BFG where you are?

toyotatom93

Really? I dont understand it...Still about $200 to ship to Vancouver
30x9.5 BFG A/T KO $175
31x10.5 is like $200