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Old 10-19-2008, 08:40 PM
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Yeah, Abe we've talked 'bout Hamer before. We are of the same mindset when it comes to them.

And we don't need to know 'bout your personal shimming problems. There are pills and operations bout stuff like that. Go to a dr.....lol
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But keep in mind. Like I said, that was on my v6. I don't know if your 22re has 1 or 2 copper washers
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if it was Hamer... it was likely 2 pennies drilled out and ground down with the copper shavings sold for scrap.


*edit- sorry, yes. banjo bolt, two washers.

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lol. Lets not eeven go there. Thats a whole new thread. The Hamer Toyota haters thread.......
Old 10-19-2008, 08:53 PM
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haha...yeah I'm talking about those two little copper shim thingys on BOTH sides of the fitting...I only have one on the intake side...not a big deal right???
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on my v6 1 was supposed to be on the inside of the banjo bolt, and 1 on the outside, IIRC
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typically, you'll see two washers one on each side of the banjo fitting- one to seal the fitting against the 'mount' and another to seal the bolt to the fitting.
so... now what?
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
haha...yeah I'm talking about those two little copper shim thingys on BOTH sides of the fitting...I only have one on the intake side...not a big deal right???
not necessarily a big deal, but if the banjo bolt is not centered in the banjo fitting, the holes in the banjo bolt may be partially restricted, limiting the fluid flow.
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now that we have totally straight and figured out.....wait, will there be a quiz on this later?
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
now that we have totally straight and figured out.....wait, will there be a quiz on this later?
I sure hope not

lol...its centered...or at least I think so.

So, is there are a way to clean the AFM? I heard that your not supposed to touch the little thingys...whatever they call them.
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touching little thingys may make you blind...

oddly enough though, electrical contact cleaner might work.
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
touching little thingys may make you blind...

oddly enough though, electrical contact cleaner might work.
I only touch my big thingy Alright...might give that a try!
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you really shouldn't be playing with your tranny shifter. You're trying to fix your truck, remember??? Stay on the subject AT hand, not In hand!!!! Geez, youngsters these days
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Haha...okay for some reason my truck starts first try in the morning after its been sitting all night. But say I drive to school (2 miles) and leave at lunch (from 8-11:45 it sits) it won't start unless I give it a bit of gas.

Just throwing it out there. I haven't looked at the afm yet. Its my birthday tomorrow and I have to work...lol.
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I don't think you're giving it gas... I think you're giving it air, holding the pedal down.
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
I don't think you're giving it gas... I think you're giving it air, holding the pedal down.
True! Yeah i know its not carb'd

So should I still get a vac gauge? Where do I put it? And how much pressure should I be looking at? Thanks!
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Okay...tested the AFM and it works fine. Looks like I should be looking for a vacuum leak now. I need a gauge. It will be a couple days before I get it though. And, the inside of the AFM is horrible. Its pretty corroded and has a bunch of white (I'm guessing the corrosion) stuff all in the inside. Not to mention its dirty. And I have a new air filter on my truck (just to make sure) lol.

Also, my idle still changes a little bit from time to time. Idle will be at 600 sometimes and it usually always stays at 750. I'm going to retime it in a little bit. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
Okay...tested the AFM and it works fine. Looks like I should be looking for a vacuum leak now. I need a gauge. It will be a couple days before I get it though. And, the inside of the AFM is horrible. Its pretty corroded and has a bunch of white (I'm guessing the corrosion) stuff all in the inside. Not to mention its dirty. And I have a new air filter on my truck (just to make sure) lol.

Also, my idle still changes a little bit from time to time. Idle will be at 600 sometimes and it usually always stays at 750. I'm going to retime it in a little bit. Thanks!
any particular reason why you think a dirty, corroded, white-stuff-covered AFM is fine?
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