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Old 01-16-2007, 06:53 AM
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Rear locker or IFS lift?

So should I get a rear locker first or a front IFS lift? Which one and why?

I've got springs for the rear to correct for sag, and I'm deliberating on which to do next, or just keep it at the current height and replace all shocks and get a rear locker.
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Shocks and a locker will get you through a lot more stuff you couldn't get through before than a front lift.
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Locker. Period.
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Originally Posted by Tacoclimber
Locker. Period.
X2!

I need to get a locker...
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Lock 'er
Old 01-16-2007, 07:23 AM
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alright then, for the followup, what's the good inexpensive locker? I don't need anything fancy!!!!
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i would get a locker ... o wait i already got one
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Originally Posted by chimmike
alright then, for the followup, what's the good inexpensive locker? I don't need anything fancy!!!!
Well, in that case... A "Lincoln locker"...

Do a search for "Detroit locker", "Tru-trac locker", "Aussie locker", or, if you really wanna go all out, "ARB locker". Depending on what truck you have, you could swap out an e-locked rear end... Search, and ye shall find...

Edit: Just saw that you have a 94... I'm pretty sure an e-locked rear end could be retrofitted to your rig. Anyone know for sure?

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cool. Okay, front or rear locker first?
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Rear locker first. You wouldn't want a front locker unless it was a selectable IMO.
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Locker!
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if you dont want to pay alot get a spool or weld the spider gears together. if you want a better grade get a lunchbox locker, i.e. aussie, lock right, etc. the best deal with detroit locker, trd e locker, arb air locker.
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Originally Posted by GV27
Shocks and a locker will get you through a lot more stuff you couldn't get through before than a front lift.
How will shocks improve your off-road performance?

Another locker vote here.
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i went with the lift first to run bigger tires, but locker and gears are on the way
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Originally Posted by norcalsvx
i went with the lift first to run bigger tires, but locker and gears are on the way
Understandable, but when you're losing traction, a bigger tire ain't gonna help...
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Originally Posted by Tacoclimber
Understandable, but when you're losing traction, a bigger tire ain't gonna help...
i needed bigger tires for more clearance, i really have'nt had that bad of a traction problem, (unless there is more than 2-3 feet of snow)and i went from bald a/t to new muds
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Originally Posted by norcalsvx
i needed bigger tires for more clearance, i really have'nt had that bad of a traction problem, (unless there is more than 2-3 feet of snow)and i went from bald a/t to new muds
No, I understand, I was just pointing out that in a situation where you have one wheel that's just sitting there doing nothing, it doesn't matter if you have 29's or 35's, you're still without traction. Just with 35's, your axle is higher off the ground.

But, you're right: good tires are a must, whatever size you're running!
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Originally Posted by all_terrain17
How will shocks improve your off-road performance?

Another locker vote here.
Well the original question was ((Lift) OR (Shocks AND Locker)), so that was what I was answering. Obviously a locker will be the more valuable of the two (or is it 5?). But unless you're crawling so slowly that you have no dynamic suspension movement, upgraded shocks are helpful in many ways. Help keep the tires in better contact with the ground for more traction, help keep the bottom of the truck from banging down on rocks, the ground, etc., give a more comfortable ride, etc.

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it's basically a question of which is more important to you - looks or performance
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With a 94 IFS, you have torsion bars that can be adjusted to compensate the height difference between the front and the rear. It's a simple wrench turn, but if you've never adjusted them (or it's been several years), you might break the existing bolts (due to rust) and have to replace them. You can get a set of replacement bolts from any Toyota shop. It'll make the ride a little stiffer, but I did it on mine to compensate for new rear springs and it's worked fine. I also replaced the factory torsion bars with a set of aftermarket ones (Sway-A-Way). At the time I paid about $100 for the set. They're a bit bigger/sturdier and will give you a decent height increase in the front. If you crank too much you'll get a stiff ride and limit your downward travel (although I haven't noticed anything significant--I don't do any rock crawling :>)


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