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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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You measure the hight from the center of the HUB to the bottom of the fender. The FRONT fender is cut higher than the rear, when the 4runner sets perfectly level the front looks higher due to the larger fender opening.

I trust NAPA parts and used their springs. I also lowered my front t-bars to make the front fenders appear to be the same size as the rear and to give the 4runner rake like my 'cruiser had.


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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bear80
You measure the hight from the center of the HUB to the bottom of the fender. The FRONT fender is cut higher than the rear, when the 4runner sets perfectly level the front looks higher due to the larger fender opening.

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By measuring like you're suggesting you'll still have no idea if the body is really sitting level as you don't mention how much higher the front well is than the rear.
To see if the body is level, check it like I said, at the rocker (below the doors for those who don't know what that is).

Either put a level on the bottom of the body below the doors, or measure from the bottom of the body, below the doors (the rocker) at the front and rear (that is behind the front wheels and in front of the rear wheels) to the groudn (assuming that you're on level ground) and that'll tell you, for sure, if the body is level or not, regardless of how the wheel wells are cut.


Meauring from the hub to the top of the wheel well will tell you nothing regarding the levelness of the body.




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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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So i understand the fenders are cut unevenly i'm just wondering what you guys have for measurements from the ground to the top of the wheel well.

I have right now
Front 37"
Rear 33.5"
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnxl185
So i understand the fenders are cut unevenly i'm just wondering what you guys have for measurements from the ground to the top of the wheel well.

I have right now
Front 37"
Rear 33.5"
With 31" tires.
Front 37"
Rear 35"
Bottom of rocker to the ground:
Front (behind the front wheel) 21"
Rear (in front of the rear wheel) 21"




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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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thanks for the help guys, i just ordered a set of moog varible rate springs. i'll let you all know how it works out.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
By measuring like you're suggesting you'll still have no idea if the body is really sitting level as you don't mention how much higher the front well is than the rear.
To see if the body is level, check it like I said, at the rocker (below the doors for those who don't know what that is).

Either put a level on the bottom of the body below the doors, or measure from the bottom of the body, below the doors (the rocker) at the front and rear (that is behind the front wheels and in front of the rear wheels) to the groudn (assuming that you're on level ground) and that'll tell you, for sure, if the body is level or not, regardless of how the wheel wells are cut.


Meauring from the hub to the top of the wheel well will tell you nothing regarding the levelness of the body.




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Nope get an FSM for a 4runner and tell me that again. It should tell you the correct hight settings. You will be able to tell if the truck is level by each fender to hub measurment.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear80
Nope get an FSM for a 4runner and tell me that again. It should tell you the correct hight settings. You will be able to tell if the truck is level by each fender to hub measurment.
Without getting a FSM, asking someone to look it up for me, or searching for one on line (which those that are on line are guilty of copyright violation BTW), I can tell in about 30 seconds if the truck is level.

MEASURE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE ROCKER, BEHIND THE FRONT WHEEL WELL, TO THE GROUND AND FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE ROCKER, IN FRONT OF THE REAR WHEEL WELL, TO THE GROUND, OR PUT A LEVEL ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE ROCKER.

Nothing could be easier and simplier.




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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Fred, that is assuming that the vehicle was level when it was stock. So without getting out the FSM, you don't know if you are back to stock or lifted or what. Being that you are such a stickler on advertised spring "lifts", I would think you would find that stuff out before you start bagging on everyone elses springs.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Alright i got my MOOG spring and installed them. Everything thing went smooth except getting the rear wheels off.
It looks pretty level to me and the ride is much better. Taking it out for the first ride i realized that i used to bottom out on almost every bump.
Thanks for the help guys
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slosurfer
Fred, that is assuming that the vehicle was level when it was stock. So without getting out the FSM, you don't know if you are back to stock or lifted or what. Being that you are such a stickler on advertised spring "lifts", I would think you would find that stuff out before you start bagging on everyone elses springs.
That's true, so let's see.
What's the magic measurement from the FSM ?




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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnxl185
Alright i got my MOOG spring and installed them. Everything thing went smooth except getting the rear wheels off.
It looks pretty level to me and the ride is much better. Taking it out for the first ride i realized that i used to bottom out on almost every bump.
Thanks for the help guys
It was hard getting the wheels off ??




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Old May 31, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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Before and After Pics?
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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I have a question for this thread. In regards to the rear coils. I already have a 4 " Pro comp ifs and rear link lift . I just did a SAS and my rear springs are worn as hell. And Its sitting way high in front than rear. Let me remind you I already have a rear 4" lift on there. I'm thinking I have a good 2" sag in the rear. What coil and booster can I put in the rear to get level with the front SAS, TRAIL Gear 5" non hd leaf lift?? When I lift up the rear it measures that it needs another 4.5 "



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