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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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quick question

i was reading around the internet and i cam across a forum were guys were putting the 80 series land cruiser coils on rears and 1.5bj up front and they said
"using a 3" lift in the rear matches the 1.5" bj spacers in the front really nicely"
my only question is how can you have 3" in the back and 1.5" in the front?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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The 4runners sag 1.5" or more in the rear. So, you are lifting the back 3" from the sagged position.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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oh ya duh
sorry sometimes i don't think things through
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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one more quick question
what shocks would go good with this set up,
some Rough Country Hydro 8000 series
or Bilstien 5125
or...
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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i would go after the Bilsteins. I run them on my 86 and they are great shocks.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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sounds good,
thanx for the help
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Bilstiens are the best shock you can buy
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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are the ome 895 the lc coils i need
http://www.offroadtuff.com/ometoyota.htm

and if they are is thier a place to get them cheaper
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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I know when I was looking... OME seemed to be the most popular for the coils.. I was planning on using their shocks aswell. Keep in mind, you may be able to get away cranking up your T-bar up front about 3/4" to 1". Might not have to use the ball-joint spacer, but.. it will be a rougher ride.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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are there others ones beside the ome?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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No, you need pre-sagged used and abused old LC coils of an 80 series. You're welcome to try to use 60 or 70 series springs, but you might run into a wee problem with them

You're going to have a brutal rake with LC coils and BJ spacers. I think you're better off with OME medium duty 4Runner coils and BJ spacers.

Here's how my truck sat before, with saggy coils:




With OME 900 (medium duty) rear coils (doing some hard core rock crawling):

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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I got some kind of performance coil that was added to my truck in the 90's, from Germany, and I'll tell you, those things are impressive. wish I knew the brand name. 15 plus years of abuse, and they still don't sag, and they flex very well.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtrucknwheels
I got some kind of performance coil that was added to my truck in the 90's, from Germany, and I'll tell you, those things are impressive. wish I knew the brand name. 15 plus years of abuse, and they still don't sag, and they flex very well.
Are you talking about the ones that are in the toyota performance parts mags...
the progressive rate springs...
My dads got those out back on his runner and they give it a nice stance
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scuba
Are you talking about the ones that are in the toyota performance parts mags...
the progressive rate springs...
My dads got those out back on his runner and they give it a nice stance
I'm not sure, the previous owner put them on. he did that at 17k miles, now the truck has 212k miles, and is still raked forward, gives it a real aggressive look.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt16
No, you need pre-sagged used and abused old LC coils of an 80 series.
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why do i need the used ones, wouldn't new ones be better??

Last edited by SR5; Sep 21, 2008 at 11:24 PM.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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the used ones are pre sagged, as in won't sag much more if any.

i put a 4" lift on mine in the front and lc coils in the rear and it sits level. Fyi
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SR5
why do i need the used ones, wouldn't new ones be better??
Better at what? They're still going to lift it ~3" beyond what the OMEs in the second picture did.

Basically, what I was implying is that they lift the rear too much for bj spacers, you really need a bracket lift to level it.

Another thing to keep in mind is that with a huge rake, the steering is going to be very weird as the caster angle changes and cannot be corrected for.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Head's up... Next time make your title a little more descriptive

Like: Quick Question - 2nd Gen 4runner Coils

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:44 AM
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look up strapp22 on here, he works for a toyota dealership and has put together packages that give you a few choices. iirc, yotatech members receive a discount through him.

lee
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt16

With OME 900 (medium duty) rear coils (doing some hard core rock crawling):

lc coils of a 80 series, with 1.5" bj
looks alot like yours,
they dont over lift the rear end, they fix the 1.5" of sag and lift it 1.5"
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