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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Hi all,

Recently I've been seriously considering getting rid of my 35's (pro comp xterrains) in favor of a tall skinny tire.

Reason's

-less weight =less wear and tear and easier steering
-the pro-comp x-terrains suck in the snow (which is what I use my truck for more than anything else) don't know if siping would help enough or not
-the 12.5's stick out just a bit past Bushwacker extended flares where I am borderline legal (from what I'm told)
-I like the look of a tall skinny tire too
-I'd also like to lower my suspension a bit (remove spacers, different springs, see post to come)

Can anyone provide any recomendations for a tire? Preferably something with decent snow traction. I'd still like to be as tall as possible and have it balance well.

The ideal tire size I've found is on the swamper LTB 34x10.5. But I know nothing about it and the lack of siping and bias ply worry me as to how it will perform in snow and ride at highway speeds. I know there are alot of 33's out there but I would like to stay bigger if possible. As always cost is an issue, but I'd probably sell the pro-comps to pay for the new tires/wheels.

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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I know you said you wouldnt want a 33" but BFG makes a 255/85/16, that is like a 33.4x10.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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anybody make like a 31 X 9?
i want some skinnys too, like the military tires on old sckool scouts and jeeps.

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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The Swamper LTB's you are thinking about are really bad in the snow too. The sidewall is really stiff so they don't air down well, especially when cold. If you really want pizza cutters for snow, the only thing I've had decent luck with are the BFG All Terrains in a 33"
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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The Super Swamper SSR comes in 35x10.50 and it is radial and siped. I believe it is the only tire on the planet that size. Otherwise, for 33x10.50, you're looking at the BFG A/T and M/T. I have the Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT in that size, but I hear it's discontinued.

If you have (or can get) 16" rims, it opens the choices a little. The size is 255/85-16. Notably, the Maxxis Bighorn and Trxus MT are available in that size...
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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The other thing about the 34x10.50 is they really measure about 32". I looked a set to go slightly bigger than a 295x75 16 and they were smaller.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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I really like the 33x10.50 BFG/ATs in the snow, mounted on 6" rims. They air down well and really grab the snow. I've also run the old 33x9.50 MTs and they were OK in the snow, but nowhere as good as the ATs.
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/BFG_AT_KO.shtml

Just before this picture was taken, I was pushing through a drift that was as high as the headlights, had a bow wave of snow over the top of the hood:



Folks I have talked to that have run the 34x9.50 Swampers say they are very prone to loosing a bead at even moderate pressures. They may work OK if you have beadlocks and if you siped/grooved them to soften up the tread.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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My vote goes for the 33x10.50 tires for the both of you (hayduke and bikeguy). I'm in the process right now of getting rid of my 32x11.50 BFG ATs for some 33x10.50 ATs. I should have gone with this tire size in the first place. I love the ATs. I had them offroading this weekend and performed 100% to my expectations and then some.

I say again 33x10.50 BFG ATs get my vote
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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Thanks for all the replys. It really sounds like the BFG AT is the way to go. I'll look into them some more. The SSR sounds good too but the cost is beyond my means. Thanks again
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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I would not run SSR's in the snow.. they're downright scary (cousin has 37/12.5's on his runner)
bfg a/t's are where it's at for the snow.
they even make a 33x9.5...
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bikeguy18974
Hi all,

Recently I've been seriously considering getting rid of my 35's (pro comp xterrains) in favor of a tall skinny tire.

Reason's

-less weight =less wear and tear and easier steering
-the pro-comp x-terrains suck in the snow (which is what I use my truck for more than anything else) don't know if siping would help enough or not
-the 12.5's stick out just a bit past Bushwacker extended flares where I am borderline legal (from what I'm told)
-I like the look of a tall skinny tire too
-I'd also like to lower my suspension a bit (remove spacers, different springs, see post to come)
Wow I'm feeling exactly the same way as you right now. I know my truck would have so much more pep if it wasn't lugging around four 25lb wheels (without tires), and it would also help in the snow not having 12.5" wide tires. I feel that if I got smaller tires, I should also get rid of the huge lift or it will look plain silly.

Rob
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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When you guy's do decide to buy your tires, goto Costco. Best price, best road hazard, I have been buying my 31x10.5's from there for years now. I have had two or three tires that I ruined offroad and they replaced them free of charge. I mean, you can't tell them you were thrashing them offroad but mild offroading is ok. And of course they have to have a certain amount of tread left. JMO
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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tirepros will beat costco prices, no membership req'd & same road hazard warranty
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Never done business with tirepros or costco, Discount Tire all the way for me. And my warranty gets me a free repair or brand new tire no questions asked.

Also I have run BFG All-Terrains on every truck, and my 86' Toyota did great in the snow with those tires. They are the best all around tire you can get. IMO.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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ÅÅÅÅ discount we supposedly got an alignment there and the damn thing still pulls. bfg a/ts, ill run them on my d.d when i need new tires.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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The Costco's I've been to won't install anything larger than stock on the truck. (They will mount/balance them, just not install them) Not worth the trouble if you ask me...

I used Discount when I lived in AZ, and will definitely be going back there when I need new tires.

Roadhazard at Tire Kingdom/NTB/BigO is about worthless. I've been fighting since the beginning of October to get a couple tires replaced - and they're still not on the truck...
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Ya thats why Discount is great...they do everything for me.

tc - What part of AZ did u live in?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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I worked for AlliedSignal down by the airport, but lived with my cousin in Scottsdale.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Sorry to hear that tc, I have not run anything larger than 33's on any of my trucks.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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look > http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49827
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