took a look at my timing chain today becuase i am trying to find the clicking noise i hear. it don't think it is the chain because the plastic guides look great, except that the left side plastic thing isnt tuching the chain, is it supose to? I am guessing that the chain was replaced with the rebuild 30k miles ago.

 

I'm hearing the same noise you do in my 86 pivkup with a 22r. the guy at autozone who seemed pretty knowledgeable told my to replace the guides, tried that? also, did you have to drop the oil pan to remove it, and if you did, did the front end have to come down, the chilton's book said it did. ouch! what a b*tch.

 

Have you adjusted your valves?
The pan can be removed w/o removing the front differential. I'll send Jovis over to the thread tomorrow. He did it on his.

 

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Guides look like they should. Have you checked the rockers and assembaly to make sure they are in spec? Are your valves adjusted right? What does your compression look like? Are you sure its not your injectors clicking?

 

i guess it could be my injectors, can you hear your injectors in the cab? my compression is great, because the engine only has 30k miles on it. i adjusted the valves about 3 times, but each time i move them because they seem a little off. If i use a screw driver and press it against the valve cover, i now hear the click every ware on the valve cover but no where else on the motor. and the valve cover is tightened to spec. I mostly just took a look, because somebody told me it sounded like a loose timing chain and i wanted to make sure my guides were still good, and they look brand new.

 

put a stethescope on your injectors, or a really long screw driver, and listen to them. I could hear mine in the cab when I first got my truck, but seafoam and injector cleaner has helped a bit.

 

Hey guys, yeah when I did the head gasket on my 89 22re pickup, I did not remove the differential. I simply unbolted it and tilted it out of the way.

If you drop the driveshaft that goes to the front diff, then remove the 3 bolts in the picture, you can tilt the differential in the direction of the arrow. This will give you just enough room to slide the pan down and out.

 

huh? what are you talking about?

 

If your timing chain guides break, there will be pieces that fall into the oil pan. You have to get into the pan to get these pieces out. I just described a simpler method of getting the pan out, than what the FSM, Chilton's or Haynes manuals suggest.

 

lftd_86_yota asked if the front diff had to come down. That was a response to his Q.

 

The Dr. is correct. I should have quoted lftd_86_yota so there wouldn't be any confusion.

When I did my headgasket and timing chain guides, I referred to a combination of things learned from both Roger Brown (4crawler), and 4x4wire.

You can find the write-ups here:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...ingChain.shtml
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/timingchain/

 

Here is an excellent writeup of removing the the front third which will get you to the point of being able to rotate the axle to get your oil pan out.

http://gearinstalls.com/ifs.htm

 

Just skip the step that disconnects the right CV. Then disconnect the front driveshaft. Disregard the remainder of the steps in the writeup. Lastly, finish removing the 3 previously loosened bolts.

 

you dont have to drop the diff to get the pan off.another way is to pull the motor mount bolts, jack up the motor, pull the pan bolts, let the pan drop down then reach in and pull the oil pickup tube then the pan should come out one way or the other through the front either way works fine but i think you can save time by jacking the motor up.