SMOD

My 2nd gen is all stock pretty much and I have IFS on it.

I know the reason for swapping the IFS for a straight axle up front on these 2nd gens.

I wanted to know more about what everyone on this forum thinks?
What does everyone perfer and why?

Also, real quick question, I noticed a lot of people put 1.5inch BJ spacer on there IFS on this forum. Is that because thats what can be got away with without replacing the shocks, brake lines, etc. ?? I'm very interested.

Thanks
Smod

scuba

The IFS vs SFA is an argument that will never end..

As for the BJ spacers, They give minimal lift while not having to replace things like you said, so yes..
Also, I dont have 8392 dollars to throw down for a bracket lift, + if I did that money would go into an IFS Long Travel fund...

toylocost

try using the search feature. lol.

a4runnerfreak

Scuba, If it costs that much for a 4" bracket lift, than your great grandkids will be old before there's enuff money in your long travel fund......!

Damn, Abe bought his for less than 5 bills, talk 'bout inflation

muddpigg

iTrader: (1)

Ive read not expereinced that bracket lifts can bend the frame if you wheel your ride. I run 33" with minimal t-bar cranking and some metal trimming. But I'm soon going to SAS soon. IFS will take you far, I've made all the trails the SA guys have gone. I'm SAS mostly cuase I want to, want to level out my rig and really not crazy about the IFS options. I do look forward to more wheel travel. I've also built up most of the other rest of the truck. SAS was low on my list of wheeling mods.

abecedarian

Actually spent 400 on phase 1: procomp stage 2 w/ blocks... Craigslist can be your friend. Then another 200 on phase 2: to replace the blocks with lift springs. Phase 3 is gonna be BJ spacers and rear traction bars... and likely regearing and 33's (might push to stage 4 and do 35"). Phase 4 will be combining to long travel, T100 rear axle, and likely new springs. By the time I'm done, I should have around 9 inches of lift on IFS w/out body lift and about 11" travel up front.

But yeah the arguments about SAS vs. IFS are never ending and they each have things they do better than the other.

89silverpu

Seriously?....

abecedarian

Me? Yeah... cause then if I decide to SAS I can sell all the parts to fund it. And then I'll know for certain if IFS is capable or not. And I'll have the rear already done where I want it so can concentrate on the front.

BigWavePaul

iTrader: (1)

The order of importance for different modifications on your truck is as follows.

1. Drivetrain
2. Armor
3. Tires
4. Suspension

Find some links, 4Crawler and Pirate Frequenly Asked Questions (FAQ)
There are links in my signature
You should also try to skim through the Sticky threads, even search for stickies to avoid flaming, it's when others give you grief for being new and not reading the stickies

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iamsuperbleeder

is it just me, or does your avatar make anyone elses skin crawl... I would never try that crap, lol




I love my IFS rig; I'll beat on her till she gives up; and when it does give out (not if, but when), I'll probably fix the IFS and do it again

now if I get another vehicle and can afford the SAS, maybe... but only maybe...

tc

How do you use your truck?

Do you care about the body/glass?

Suffice it to say, if you have to ask if you need a SAS, you don't.


I disagree with the list above slightly, I say:
1. Armor
2. Gears/lockers
Tires when your wear out
Lift after youv'e wheeled the crap out of the above and KNOW exactly what you need for how you use your truck.

AxleIke

Hmmm.....

Is IFS Capable?

Not sure.... (For rock size reference, those tires are 33" tall.)

91Toyota

It's capable for most applications. Do you see crawlers with ifs? Mudders? No, probably not.

I really don't think their is a list of importance, it is all pretty important when it comes down to it.

Slowstrike

IMO IFS does better in mud and sand than SAS I mean do you need articulation in the mud? I think not, the axle is just another thing to drag




Just my 2 cents.

scuba

bahah, OP, And everyone for that matter, IKE is a crazy SON B that'll try anything with his truck...
That said...
OP, You probably dont need an sas..

tc

No, not crazy - he was and asking for like a girlie girl just before this picture was taken. (Note, the strap is just for stability - it wasn't hooked to a vehicle)

But then after seeing him, I didn't even try it, so there's not much I can say ...

scuba

lol, Ive seen some of his stuff, And Ive been very impressed..
I sometimes have been in that situation...hah...Note:

It doesnt look bad, But it got worse right after...
I then asked : Why is it scarier going down !??

91Toyota

Thats why you see IFS rigs with 44" tires on them

I guess if your running 29" stock tires then yeah sure.

jsn_stockard

I m o, it all comes down to traction and trails, and truck use. I run IFS in my current rig, and sold my 93 solid ax Toy. There is no overall answer, like apples and oranges. Score trucks run ifs, monster trucks run solids. It depends on the purpose of the vehicle.

stagger_lee

IFS is great and fine for most applications.

Yeah, goosebumps. Tucker sno-cat. First motorized crossing of Antartica in 1957. It has a solid axle by the way.