Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

IFS & 35's!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:14 PM
  #1  
Trustyrusty's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,349
Likes: 1
From: (Rednecks Inbreed In) Kansas
IFS & 35's!

I got a 3" Body lift, and I can run 35's with minor rub, I have 33x12.5's right now, and want to go to 35x12.5's, I realize I wouldn't need much more lift, so I'll get balljoint spacers, and longer rear shackles to accomodate the tires. I will be regearing before I get 35's, I figured I'd get 5.29's with 33's, so it would be a little overgeared for the trail which is nice, but I thought if I had 5.29's I could get 35's with minor hassle.. I'm just worried I'll start breaking CV's and stuff, I mostly do hill climbs, rock ledges, trails, and a little mud, but sometimes I beat on my truck pretty hard.. I'm not for sure that the extra 1" of differential clearance would gain me much other then more money outta my pocket, and more chances of flopping due to bigger lift. I think my money would be better well spent on a rear locker, any input?
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:19 PM
  #2  
fillsrunner4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,906
Likes: 2
From: Woodinville, wa
SAS the thing! Youll be destoying that IFS the first time out with them 35's for what it sounds like you do ide get a SFA under it and not pay another cent on the IFS
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:22 PM
  #3  
abecedarian's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 6
From: Temecula Valley, CA
You have similar aspirations as I, but it appears you're going about it from the opposite direction that I am. I'm looking for a high-speed / desert / dune type truck.

I've got a 4" (confirmed- procomp stage II) susp lift and want 35's. So I'm planning on regearing to 5.29 for the larger tires. I'm also planning on doing a long-travel addition to my bracket lift (likely Total Chaos), T100 rear axle, a mild shackle lift with blocks and traction bars on the rear....
... doing it all without a body lift.

Kinda sucks... when I'm working, the pockets are deep, but when I'm not working I'm scouring for change from wishing wells.

Good luck. I'd like to hear about what you do.
and there's that whole Sin91 truck I have to deal with....

Last edited by abecedarian; Oct 5, 2008 at 04:24 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:23 PM
  #4  
jason191918's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,521
Likes: 0
From: Hopkins, MN
lockers should come before tires or lift.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:46 PM
  #5  
Yodaforce's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 407
Likes: 0
From: West NC
Who are we to tell him what his priorities should be. Most all of us did something that did not make sense to other people and we either had fun or learned a lesson from it. Ahh, who cares. I'm just grumpy because I have a toothache...

Last edited by Yodaforce; Oct 5, 2008 at 04:48 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:45 PM
  #6  
Noltz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 379
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
3" BL, 35's.



Ya, I got stuck... but hella fun getting out
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:09 PM
  #7  
Trustyrusty's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,349
Likes: 1
From: (Rednecks Inbreed In) Kansas
Any rubbing? What rims & backspacing?
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:11 PM
  #8  
fillsrunner4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,906
Likes: 2
From: Woodinville, wa


No not suck... but stuck!

thats a pretty cool pic!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:12 PM
  #9  
Trustyrusty's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,349
Likes: 1
From: (Rednecks Inbreed In) Kansas
Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
SAS the thing! Youll be destoying that IFS the first time out with them 35's for what it sounds like you do ide get a SFA under it and not pay another cent on the IFS
No time for SAS this is my DD... and the waterpump is out on the Tacoma. SAS=1500$ with trail gear kit BJ spacers & shackles= 250$ I don't rock crawl it, so WHY do I need a SFA. I mean it would be nice, but I don't NEED it.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:14 PM
  #10  
toyNG's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 648
Likes: 1
From: Redlands, CA
for the uses you've described, it sounds like lockers would do more for you.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:16 PM
  #11  
fillsrunner4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,906
Likes: 2
From: Woodinville, wa
youll find out "WHY" one of these days!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:20 PM
  #12  
eatmorechicken's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
You don't NEED it but with ifs and 35s and the fact that you said you beat on it pretty hard you'll quickly spend as much on CVs as a SAS would cost you... Just my input.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:22 PM
  #13  
fillsrunner4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,906
Likes: 2
From: Woodinville, wa
Shop fixing your destoyed IFS will get you a SAS and you can easily DD it!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:23 PM
  #14  
olharleyman's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,607
Likes: 2
From: maryland
Originally Posted by Trustyrusty
Any rubbing? What rims & backspacing?
I have 4" Pro Comp Stage II Mickey Thompson Classic II's 3.75 BS with no body lift and trimmed the pinch welds but at full lock still get rubbing and the same with big bumps a body and or bj spacers will be the next , manual locks are your friend for this set up and as for cv's mine are almost flat just like stock and have not had any issues with breakage.

Last edited by olharleyman; Oct 5, 2008 at 06:28 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:02 PM
  #15  
Trustyrusty's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,349
Likes: 1
From: (Rednecks Inbreed In) Kansas
Well I'm gonna wheel it until I think I can't get any farther and make my decision, theres only one area at my ORV park I can't hack through and thats cause I have IFS and don't want body damage.. I'm sure lockers/armor/gears are MUCH more important then larger tires obviously, but I DO like the monster truck look hehe..
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:08 PM
  #16  
bullcrew's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
if you want larger tires, DO IT!
I wanted 5:29s lsd's front and rear and 33's did it. Climbs like a monster, now I want 35's so Im doing a lift!
Just do it! They will work with a sas if you decide to later!
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:13 PM
  #17  
Matt16's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,377
Likes: 5
Your steering hates you.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
  #18  
abecedarian's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 6
From: Temecula Valley, CA
Originally Posted by Yodaforce
Who are we to tell him what his priorities should be. Most all of us did something that did not make sense to other people and we either had fun or learned a lesson from it. Ahh, who cares. I'm just grumpy because I have a toothache...
And some of us are trying to make sense of why people did things the way they did...
Originally Posted by eatmorechicken
You don't NEED it but with ifs and 35s and the fact that you said you beat on it pretty hard you'll quickly spend as much on CVs as a SAS would cost you... Just my input.
Considering 'birfields' are little more than SAS CV's, I'm not sure where this is leading.
Originally Posted by olharleyman
I have 4" Pro Comp Stage II Mickey Thompson Classic II's 3.75 BS with no body lift and trimmed the pinch welds but at full lock still get rubbing and the same with big bumps a body and or bj spacers will be the next , manual locks are your friend for this set up and as for cv's mine are almost flat just like stock and have not had any issues with breakage.
Well, an IFS opinion amid the scathing SAS crowd?
Originally Posted by Trustyrusty
Well I'm gonna wheel it until I think I can't get any farther and make my decision, theres only one area at my ORV park I can't hack through and thats cause I have IFS and don't want body damage.. I'm sure lockers/armor/gears are MUCH more important then larger tires obviously, but I DO like the monster truck look hehe..
Appropriate gearing should be amongst the first things you do. Then when you find yourself getting stuck, find out why and how to avoid it next time.
Originally Posted by Matt16
Your steering hates you.
The Force wants it's sliders back.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 09:39 PM
  #19  
Jay351's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 10
From: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
For any serious wheeling... I would never shove a 35" tire on IFS. My opinion, but every single wheeling trip I go on, I cook at LEAST an idler arm...then go tie rod ends, balljoints.. up to 33" tires, its bearable..after that. No.


And I think you're gonna need more then 3" body lift and bj spacers for 35x12.50's I dunno how the heck you guys dont rub, but with all my lift I still rub when flexed out.

Last edited by Jay351; Oct 5, 2008 at 09:40 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 11:21 PM
  #20  
Matt16's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,377
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by Jay351
For any serious wheeling... I would never shove a 35" tire on IFS. My opinion, but every single wheeling trip I go on, I cook at LEAST an idler arm...then go tie rod ends, balljoints.. up to 33" tires, its bearable..after that. No.


And I think you're gonna need more then 3" body lift and bj spacers for 35x12.50's I dunno how the heck you guys dont rub, but with all my lift I still rub when flexed out.

Is that the OE idler arm, or the short shaft you had on last spring? You have an idler arm brace, so does the brace bend as well, or does it just eat the bushings?

Last edited by Matt16; Oct 5, 2008 at 11:25 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 AM.