Remember there are two different sized idler arms, my 1990 idler arm was too skinny for the bushings I got from the parts store. I guess they changed sometime after 1990.

 

Well, Apperantly guys have had to machine them to different specs for their ride. ... wierd...

 

I think they changed rod sizes around 1992-93. I got a oem 93 idler with a brace, when I took it apart I realized they changed sizes...

 

i cant wait to sas my rig, i hate the ifs

 

I just did the brass bushing/grease fitting thing yesterday on my 93. They fit in my oem arm perfect. Nice snug fit with a mallet. So you should have no issue with the ones he sends you if you order them. Or you could put your aftermarket arm back on and send your oem in to him and he'll machine them to fit if you're worried about it. When ordering mine I was pretty sure he was machining them for the later larger diameter arm but I asked about fits anyway and he said to send it in if they didn't fit.

 

I wonder the bolt pattern on the arm and the link to the relay rod are the same. Can I swap my 1990 arm and housing for a 1995?

 

yay internet, double post

 

How it mounts is the same however the arm's inner rod diameter differs. So you can't mix match parts. You can swap complete units though

 

That's what I thought. I'm going to school not to far from a big Toyota junk yard, so i may go grab a spare sometime, rebuild and beef it up, then install it and use the other as a trail spare.

 

Trusty, save your money with the 35s. Use that to get it locked, geared, as you said. But start saving for a SAS, i am young like you(19) and i though i would never get to a SAS but i slowly saved and got it done. now im going from 33s to 37-38s. So you could be just wasting money depending on what you want to do with the truck in the long run. But for now just stick with the 33s. Lockers will give you better traction than 35s.

 

Agreed, lock up before going up in tires. I did lockers, then 33's then I was thinking of 35's but kept putting it off because I didn't want to try and get the IFS to play nice with 35's so now I'm doing an sas. I got through more being locked up with 31's than other trucks on 33's and 35's open.

 

Bracket lifts will give you more distance between the ground and the frame, tranny etc without bigger tires. If you do a body lift you have to get bigger tires to get any lift. I would go bracket lift before body lift.

 

it may be a samuarai but it has toyota running gear and its rolling on 35's.

 

This thread was deader than steve irwin... And that picture ain't even relavent because the whole problem with runnin 35's is the IFS suspension, I DO beleive that MIGHT be a straight axle...

 

Thats because your a web wheeler.. And bad with money... HMMM 800$ for 4" of lift or 250$....

 

And what about the distance between the ground and the bottom of the transfercase, or the "bracket" of the "bracket lift"? What clearance do you gain there with a bracket lift?

Here's the bottom line: The only way to increase overall clearance is with taller tires. Period. Well, maybe portal axles, but even then, there's not a whole of gain. So...you want clearance? Get taller tires.

The benefit to a body lift? Taller tires without messing with your suspension geometry too much. There are plenty of people who wheel hard with bodylifts, so don't bring the "they're dangerous" junk.

There's tons of discussions about this...

IFS vs. SAS... Will it ever stop?

 

 

Thats true, its the only pro for bracket lifts.
The cons:

Increase leverage on stock IFS mounts (they are weaker now!)
you can't go back to stock easily
quite expensive for the best kit (procomp stage ll is up there)
require frequent alignments if you wheel it


With the body lift you can run the same side tires (thus same underaxle clearance), then with the money you saved, you could:

Drivetrain lift (flat belly!!!)
sliders/armor
locker/re-gear fund..

If you took a look at some hardcore wheeling trucks, you will be surprized how many of them have a body lift

 

body lifts are good if done correctly, but if u half ass any type of lift u are going to have problems

 

hey man i got a 92 with sas on 35s, open diffs and its done me awesome. its my DD too. The SAS is awesome so don't worry about driving on it alot it'll do fine. It's gonna be a fun truck either way, sweet pic