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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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how hard would this be?

ok, so i have an 87 4runner with a 22re and 5sp. my frame is jacked from the PO, and found an 89 4runner, and it looks like it has the V6. how hard would it be to put my motor in place of that V6? any help is appreciated, i want to get this done rather quick, so please help with advice
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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cut and weld motor mounts, they are different heights and location front to back.

you will have to use the trans and transfer case from the 4 cyl.

the v6 runner is a good 3.4 swap candidate though.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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i heard the 3.4 is a good swap choice, but the runner im looking at is the only one thats close to me, and the guy said that its not drive-able... and its also $500...
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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im beginning to think this wont work for me... the PO did a cheap lift by cutting the frame at the front to raise the truck, and modified the motor mounts... might be able to fix the ones i have...
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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just got a reply from the guy, he said the motor is in good shape
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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The transfer case crossmember is different for 4 cyl. and V6. But either bolts in place of the other. So you can swap them if you need to.

You can also buy an adapter to run the V6 transmission/transfer case behind your 22R-E if you wanted to(and if it's also a 5 speed). Not too cheap though...

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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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yea, adapters usually arent... thanks for the info, if theres anymore itd be appreciated
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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ummm.... what kind of V6 did the 89 4runners come with?
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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They came with the 3.0
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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The only other thing I can think to mention is the rear driveshaft. It could be slightly different in length, so you might need/want to swap that too. But then you might also want to swap the rear axles(or atleast the 3rd members). Because, for one thing, the rear driveshaft will likely only bolt to the rear axle(and/or transfer case) it was originally bolted to. Since the bolt hole pattern is usually different for 4 cyl. and V6. Multi-bolt hole pattern flanges made to fit many different driveshafts are available if needed(3rd member flanges are also directly swappable between 4 cyl. and V6 3rd members). And, for another thing, the V6 rear differential is stronger(4 pinion vs. 2 pinion). So you might want to run that rear axle instead of the 4 cyl. rear axle(or swap the 3rd members), just for that reason.

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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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this is alot to think about, if only i had smart people like you guys closer to me, id be asking for physical help than
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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I had an 87 22re with a bent frame and picked up an 89 v6 with the intention of swapping the 22re in the 89. Ended up selling the 87 to pay for the 3.4 swap. I then bought a 95 with a blown v6 to put my 3.0 v6 into and sold that. I ended up making money
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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would it be worth making my 4 cylinder fit onto that frame and swap out the 3rd members and driveshaft if needed than to use the 3.0?
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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my problem is, is that im an unemployed college student... so time and money is limited
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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would it be worth making my 4 cylinder fit onto that frame and swap out the 3rd members and driveshaft if needed than to use the 3.0?
If the 3.0 runs ok, why not just keep it?
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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It seems I am reminded by the saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." For me when I do projects like this it almost always goes way over budget. I can pull of a mod without going broke and I can plan things just fine when doing a project, but swapping a motor in to an unknown vehicle almost always has hidden fun. What if you sold your truck that you have now and sold the motor and used the money to fix the v-6 runner? That almost seems like a better idea to me. Who knows you may be able to fix it and still have money in your pocket. Then sell it too and get a better truck than you started with.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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You could also plate the cracked frame and keep on keeping on. I saw a buddy fix one with two peices of angle iron. Worked out just fine for him. You could probably find someone with a welder that would make the repair for less than you will spend trying this swap. I hate to see a young cat like you trying to go to school and deal with this type of stuff. You got more important things to handle.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by j2the-e
If the 3.0 runs ok, why not just keep it?
I heard bad things about them and i know nothing about them.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso
It seems I am reminded by the saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." For me when I do projects like this it almost always goes way over budget. I can pull of a mod without going broke and I can plan things just fine when doing a project, but swapping a motor in to an unknown vehicle almost always has hidden fun. What if you sold your truck that you have now and sold the motor and used the money to fix the v-6 runner? That almost seems like a better idea to me. Who knows you may be able to fix it and still have money in your pocket. Then sell it too and get a better truck than you started with.
This is true, and the runner im lookin at the body is in pretty rough shape, mine is fairly clean, and my truck fits my needs.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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You could also plate the cracked frame and keep on keeping on. I saw a buddy fix one with two peices of angle iron. Worked out just fine for him. You could probably find someone with a welder that would make the repair for less than you will spend trying this swap. I hate to see a young cat like you trying to go to school and deal with this type of stuff. You got more important things to handle.
My frame is not rusted out, he previous owner just did a number on it when he cut it up, and welded it back together
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