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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 86toyota
Little off topic here, but why did my pro comp 4" lift kit say 33 is the biggest tire I can run? I've thought about running 35's before, and if you can do it with no lift, why is this a problem with my lift?
Cuz with 33x12:50 and 8" rims even with 4" lift you will be able to rub a little. But, with 33x10.50 and 7" stockers you wouldn't need any lift. Amazing what a little extra scrub radius will do,eh?

But look at it this way - at least they are being utterly realistic with their recommendations - as if they think you may actually use their product offroad - usually a company claims crap like their 1" lift will fit up to 35s! But they don't bother to tell you that the only time they won't rub is straight ahead on smooth ground....

I have a 4" (3" really) suspension lift and 3"body lift, 35x12.50s on 15x8.5s (with the most backspacing I can fit and not rub,) and with my front swaybar disconnected I can get the tires to rub on trails.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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I like them... I'm fond of a lower center of gravity too...
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Me likey...now I just need to find some nice 35x10.5's! Are there any radial 35x10.5's?

Thanks
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 914runner
Me likey...now I just need to find some nice 35x10.5's! Are there any radial 35x10.5's?

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The only radial that size I've ever seen is the Swamper SSR.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Even w/ the pics, I can see no way they fit w/o rubbing the fender seem/firewall or the battery tray...

But... if you're doing it successfully, then more power to you!!!

When you do the SAS, go 5.29's right away... skip the 4.88's.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rockota
Even w/ the pics, I can see no way they fit w/o rubbing the fender seem/firewall or the battery tray...

But... if you're doing it successfully, then more power to you!!!

I wheeled it all day today, I wasn't nice either. I only had minor rubbing on driverside firewall, yet passenger side clears better...go figure.



Originally Posted by rockota
When you do the SAS, go 5.29's right away... skip the 4.88's.
Why? I had 5.29's in my old Toy with 35's and it was okay but that was with the 4 banger under the hood.

My 3.slow idles at 600rpms, dosen't seem to mind being lugged around all day long. On pavement the 35's and my 4.56's are fine. I don't plan to go taller than 36's anyway so 5.29's would be overkill for me. Plus duals with 4.7's in the rear case shouldn't pose any problems in the dirt.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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what the heck.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyofast
Why? I had 5.29's in my old Toy with 35's and it was okay but that was with the 4 banger under the hood.

My 3.slow idles at 600rpms, dosen't seem to mind being lugged around all day long. On pavement the 35's and my 4.56's are fine. I don't plan to go taller than 36's anyway so 5.29's would be overkill for me. Plus duals with 4.7's in the rear case shouldn't pose any problems in the dirt.
3.0's don't like to be lugged; they like to be reved. 35's will need 5.29's to get back to near stock gearing if you have a 5-speed. You'll need 5.71's if you have an auto. I ran 4.88's w/ 33's and decided OD wasn't worth it anymore; the 3.0 is soooo happy above 3K rpms (and more efficient), that driving in 4th was not only more efficient, but more fun.

Run what you want, as long as you are happy, that's the important thing.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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My truck has 4:6's stock. Plus your statement about what ratios for what tire size sure sounds like it came out of some cheezy off-road rag You won't find many 5:71's as the pinion is very weak, FYI.



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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:04 AM
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I have a SSR 35x10.5 spare. Sucks up way higher. Sitting side by side with my Goodyear MT/R 35x12.5x15, the SSR 35x10.5x15 is the same height. All tires were new.

Never rolled on the SSR and probably never will. But it sure sucks up high.

On the 3rd Gen 4Runners it is the 12.5 part that is hard to deal with. Hence the shaved upper a-arms, etc.

As for this 3rd Gen pickup. The tires do work as he states, becuase the things have no articulaton what so ever. I know, I spend alot of time in one.

They bounce, not flex. Seriously, you have to "bounce" this truck through stuff.



AB, after bounceing. This was a really cheap fix. 40 bucks worth of Chevy rear leafs, a used Procomp 4" front bracket lift for 100 bucks and a set of ball joint spacers and the t-bars relaxed all the way.

Then all of a sudden the bouncer could run Aftershock at the Hammers, with 2 ARB's and a 4.7 gearset.



Now if you all of a sudden had all the "flex" old Krusty now has, you would be in trouble.

Bounce on son, bounce on..........

Get er done...........

You aint skeerd.............

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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Toyofast
My truck has 4:6's stock. Plus your statement about what ratios for what tire size sure sounds like it came out of some cheezy off-road rag You won't find many 5:71's as the pinion is very weak, FYI.
I've built 5 trucks, wheeled many more. Been doing this for a very long time. Call the opinion cheesy if you want, but it's just math, not opinion. 5.71s are "weaker," but many people run them with great success, just like many people run stock gears w/ large tires successfully. Do the math, you'll see that 5.29's are the correct gear for a 5-speed equipped truck w/ 35's. Run what you want - as said, if you are happy, that's all that matters.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I would just like to say that Toyofast is my hero. I now know w/out a doubt that my 33x10.50s will fit perfect up under my truck. I know that I can do some different things rather then putting mass amounts of money into a suspension lift. I can upgrade and make things run better, but have my 33s and good times in the process.

ps...I agree with stock gears and 35s. I ran the stock gearing in my 92 w/ 4+3+35s.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Um ... there's several people on here running 33x10.50 with no lift and NO rubbing...(myself included)
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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I see 33x10.5 all day long in my area on every Toyota truck/Runner. I also see plenty of 35-36" tires wedged onto stock height Toyotas too..... People here are a different breed.




The 35's just keep getting smaller and smaller I still really like the 35x10.5 tires....



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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck.

So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by killa66cam
Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck.
The wife hated the look of 31's and 33's on my Toyota, she said to go as big as I could...without having to lift it, so I did.



Originally Posted by killa66cam
So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help.

I think 15x8 wheels would be fine with 33x10.5 tires. I ran 33x10.5 Swamper radials on the stock 15x7 Toyota wheels. I think the swampers ran a bit narrower than say the 33x10.5 BFG's do.

Years ago I ran 34x9.5's on 15x8 wheels... okay for street but in the dirt I blew beads like mad.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Thanks for the info. They actually don't make the rim I was wanting in that size. So back to the drawing-board. I think I'm gonna do the 17"x9" Helo Maxx 6's in the black on a Nitto 265/75/R17 for the time being. I'm going to go to bigger tires when I do the solid axle swap, hopefully next summer. May do a body lift too, dunno know yet. I appreciate you help though. Again, great looking truck...too cool! later
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Just want to make sure ya'll got your info straight on 5.71 gears. Not exactly seeing how they are weaker. Here's a good link to look at:

http://www.gearinstalls.com/410suck.htm

I really like the look of 35s on a stock height suspension. You have a nice looking truck. Have you had any issues with bent steering or blown CVs with the new sized tires?
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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i was disappointed when i looked at the thread i thought you were talking about a 3rd gen 4runner
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 964runner
i was disappointed when i looked at the thread i thought you were talking about a 3rd gen 4runner

probably why this is posted in the 86-95 forum, just my guess though.

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