Fair price on 87 Pickup 4x4 22R
#1
Fair price on 87 Pickup 4x4 22R
I seems like the Toyota tax here in southern california is quite high, can't find one in decent condition under 5K. Most times, anything that is pretty clean, owners are asking (in my opinion) way too much, like $7.5K or higher! I found a 87 22R 4x4 regular cab (250K miles) with the long bed for $4k. No rust, interior is decent, but could use some work. Engine was rebuilt 50K ago. Downside is that the throwout bearing is bad which means a clutch job. I'd do it myself, but just don't have the time these days. Is $4k reasonable? Thanks!
#2
I've been buying/selling these for years. These are collector vehicles at this point. A few factoids:
- The "Toyota Tax" extends beyond CA and into any state where these trucks don't rust out. If you want a $2500 4x4 Toyota, be prepared to buy a total piece of ˟˟˟˟ that needs a new bed and probably has frame rot. They will crack in half between the bed/cab, I grew up in the rust belt (Ohio) and have seen it may times.
- They stopped making the 22R in like 1983 or 1985, can't recall but 86+ definitely are a 22RE. It's fuel injected which makes it superior to the 22R in my opinion, but it is still a turd. You'll struggle to go 65+ on the freeway and take 30 seconds to get there. You get used to it.
- $4-5k is a STEAL for a clean 4x4 pickup, especially a long-bed (rare) ... thats assuming it's CLEAN. Even with 250k miles, that is a good price. Think of it as an investment, as long as it stays STOCK and clean. it will only go up in value.
- More modifications = less value. If it looks like it's set up for "off roading" then subtract from the price.
- Clean 4Runners sell for more than clean pickups, generally. I've seen low mileage (under 100k) turbo 4Runners fetch up to $30k. Low mileage turbo trucks as high as $20k.
- Your average clean, never wrecked 4x4 pickup with 150-200k on it will easily sell for $8-10k. Ten years ago I could find these all over for $1500-$3500... those days are gone.
- I had my '87 4Runner (240k but clean) appraised recently to get it insured; $13,450! I expected $8-9k and about ˟˟˟˟ when I saw that.
Frankly, if you found a clean 4x4 long-bed (rare) in CA that doesn't have any rust or bodywork on it.. original paint, etc and all it needs is a clutch... I'd jump on it for $4k. These trucks are super easy to work on and you can get Japanese made parts for cheap. Whatever you do DON'T BUY PARTS AT VATO ZONE OR ANY OF THOSE BIG-BOX STORES. Unless you are talking about brake pads, tires or air filters... Use Authentic Toyota or JDM brand parts only (Denso, Aisin, NGK, etc.)
- The "Toyota Tax" extends beyond CA and into any state where these trucks don't rust out. If you want a $2500 4x4 Toyota, be prepared to buy a total piece of ˟˟˟˟ that needs a new bed and probably has frame rot. They will crack in half between the bed/cab, I grew up in the rust belt (Ohio) and have seen it may times.
- They stopped making the 22R in like 1983 or 1985, can't recall but 86+ definitely are a 22RE. It's fuel injected which makes it superior to the 22R in my opinion, but it is still a turd. You'll struggle to go 65+ on the freeway and take 30 seconds to get there. You get used to it.
- $4-5k is a STEAL for a clean 4x4 pickup, especially a long-bed (rare) ... thats assuming it's CLEAN. Even with 250k miles, that is a good price. Think of it as an investment, as long as it stays STOCK and clean. it will only go up in value.
- More modifications = less value. If it looks like it's set up for "off roading" then subtract from the price.
- Clean 4Runners sell for more than clean pickups, generally. I've seen low mileage (under 100k) turbo 4Runners fetch up to $30k. Low mileage turbo trucks as high as $20k.
- Your average clean, never wrecked 4x4 pickup with 150-200k on it will easily sell for $8-10k. Ten years ago I could find these all over for $1500-$3500... those days are gone.
- I had my '87 4Runner (240k but clean) appraised recently to get it insured; $13,450! I expected $8-9k and about ˟˟˟˟ when I saw that.
Frankly, if you found a clean 4x4 long-bed (rare) in CA that doesn't have any rust or bodywork on it.. original paint, etc and all it needs is a clutch... I'd jump on it for $4k. These trucks are super easy to work on and you can get Japanese made parts for cheap. Whatever you do DON'T BUY PARTS AT VATO ZONE OR ANY OF THOSE BIG-BOX STORES. Unless you are talking about brake pads, tires or air filters... Use Authentic Toyota or JDM brand parts only (Denso, Aisin, NGK, etc.)
Last edited by beef tits; 02-11-2019 at 02:40 PM.
#3
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The price of these trucks are going up!
At this point in these trucks' lives, condition is everything when it comes to price. Mileage seems to have less of an affect on value unless the mileage is very low.
$4,000 does sound like a good price, especially if the Truck is clean.
Do you have any pictures of the Truck? Pictures really help us see what you see.
The 22R was still available for both 2-Wheel Drive and 4-Wheel Drive Trucks for the 1987 model year. The 22R was no longer available for 4-Wheel Drive Trucks starting in 1988 when the 3VZ-E was released (I think that is right..). The 22R was still available in base model 2-Wheel Drive Trucks until about 1990.
All 4Runners came with the 22R-E starting for the 1985 model year.
At this point in these trucks' lives, condition is everything when it comes to price. Mileage seems to have less of an affect on value unless the mileage is very low.
$4,000 does sound like a good price, especially if the Truck is clean.
Do you have any pictures of the Truck? Pictures really help us see what you see.
The 22R was still available for both 2-Wheel Drive and 4-Wheel Drive Trucks for the 1987 model year. The 22R was no longer available for 4-Wheel Drive Trucks starting in 1988 when the 3VZ-E was released (I think that is right..). The 22R was still available in base model 2-Wheel Drive Trucks until about 1990.
All 4Runners came with the 22R-E starting for the 1985 model year.
#4
Hey guys, thanks for the replies, appreciate it! Here are some photos they sent me (I didn’t think to take any). Cosmetic cons:
- Dashboard does have one crack (I’ve come to accept any truck in this price range will have cracks)
- Driver window needs a new regulator (not too concerning)
- Clock missing and one of the little plastic face plate caps is missing (under the cluster, these should be easy to find on eBay)
- Most of the chrome trim around the windshield has broken off (again eBay, but damn they are pricey!)
- Wiring under radio is exposed, someone probably just did a hack job wiring up the head unit (should be easy to clean up)
I’ve been drooling over this one https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...812284229.html but I really can’t justify the price.
#5
That looks mostly original, but likely has been painted. I'd take a good look underneath, under the hood for signs of body repairs. Do the magnet test along the fenders. If it's good, $4k isn't bad at all!
It's even got some vintage BFG tires... check them for dry rot
It's even got some vintage BFG tires... check them for dry rot
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