could be, could be!

No just stuborn and wanted to prove it to himself. I wouldnt have helped him if he got hurt lets just say that

 

Ahhh for some reason I thought you had a 3rd gen, and pulled a factory 3.4 for a 4.3. Never mind I get it.

Why do I want to say the 3.4 is 350lbs....

 

All good Nah if I already had that motor it probably wouldnt have given me so much trouble!

I bet it weighs about that!

 

WOW that is light i know the 22r is 375 full of fluid!!

is that dry weight?

 

The fluids can't weight more than 25lbs. I can't imagine that the 3.4 only weighs 350lbs. But I've been wrong before.

 

Then you'll have to explain who Bill Maddison is, cause that makes no sense. I searched for it and I came up with a French missing person, who disappeared in Australia while vacationing with his lover who looked like this-->


Are you in on this?

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPgI-...eature=related

Atleast youve seen office space, I cant tell you how many people have come up to me at events and are supprised I am not the guy in my avatar.

 

^hahahhahha

Dude i love your 4runner, 4rnr.

every since i saw it in 4wdtoyotaowner

Maybe you should help me make mine like yours!

okay good, ill drive out tomorrow, and we can 3.4swap, sas, exo, etc..

hahaha.

 

LOL I want to be Lawrence when I grow up. Office space is one of my favorite movies, i nearly piss myself laughing each time I've watched it.

 

Just a basically stock guy here with a Chevy swap in the works (done really just tunning the viberation out of the drive line), but I friggin love your red runner with the full Exo skelleton. SWEET!!!

 

lower gearing would have straightened that out. he was having to hit the obstacles pretty hard to get over them. otherwise it looks like a day on the rocks with my buddies.

 

Isnt it great when people with mostly stock rigs make fun of those who have heavily modified ones, saying it is overkill or stupid. Bet money the op would trade his truck for the one in the video if actually given the chance. Not that my rig is by any means super modified. I dont make fun of others for having sweet trucks. I hope to build one eventually and am getting there.
On another note I have heard that any larger than 35s and it is best to go with full width axles on a toy. Guess that also depends on lift etc.

If you dont know dont be a critic. Some advice I need to take myself sometimes. If proven wrong than admit defeat.

 

I don't think anyone has been proven wrong. In fact, I stand by my original argument. There have been several responses (4rnr off the top of my head) to this from people who had large lifts and dropped it down to lower the COG. Other's like AxleIke and TC have stock height rigs that are extremely capable.

The fact that a lower COG (centre of gravity) is better is irrefutable, that's why rock crawler's load their tires with lead shot or water. Of course that isn't practical for a rig used on the road, so one has to resort to other means to lower the COG as much as possible.

Watch AxleIke's rig here. Little, if any lift and it does much better than the original video, granted AxleIke's rig is properly geared for the situation.

AxleIkes vid

 

Yes a lower cg is better for stability. Articulation is also important and is a compromise with cg. Axle width is another important factor which can make a higher cg fine if the width of the axles is sufficient. Axle obviousely has skill but I am sure he knows his rigs limitations and that some obstacles require articulation that his rig does not have and therefore can not be attempted without other precautions to prevent rollover. Speed is another factor. Lower speeds, corner etc make a higher cg ok. You wont corner a truck like a ferrari. There has to be a compromise.

 

I'll agree with you on that.

 

Sorry, i have to do it...

 

Thats alright that picture is hilarious whether its directed at me or not.

 

Re-watch the video...

1:21-1:33... The Yota's wheeling and the Wrangler is at the bottom with the
hood popped open. I think that is the real statement here.

 

No bodys arguing about anything. We are having a discussion, a d-i-s-c-u-s-s-i-o-n. Its what happens in the real world and on other boards. I admit this may seem like arguing amongst all the pole smoking non-productive resposnses that most topics on this site get like, "awesome" "great job" and lets not forget the ever productive "sweet".

I for one find this thread to be a breath of fresh air in an otherwise disappointing site (in recent months).

 

First, that is French Creek on the Holy Cross trail, and is one of the hardest obstacles in Colorado. There is little reason to be "more capable" than that around here ... oh, and all the harder stuff is on non-scenic trails, the ONLY reason to do them is because they are hard.

Generally, those trails come with MANDATORY body damage and LIKELY mechanical damage - even for built trucks and buggies. Could our trucks do those trails if we had SAS and more flex? Probably. WOULD either Isaac or myself do them? Doubtful - neither of us likes body damage, and as said before, there's no reason to do them other than to stroke your ego and say "I ran the hardest trail in Colorado".

Holy Cross is AWESOME - it has it all. Hard obstacles, unbelievable scenery, and a great history with the mining town at the top.

i guess some parts of the country may require more suspension articulation, but around here ain't one of 'em. Put a skilled driver like Isaac in a properly geared, locked front/rear rig and you quickly see how overrated suspension travel is ...