It's interesting you say that Mike, because you said earlier in this thread:

And:

You did complain about the high beam spread, so is that what you meant?

Or did you change your mind about the low beams as well as the high beams?

We'll find out either way for me. I don't have the cash to spend on the E-codes, and really I just need some new headlights because one is starting to burn out. Couldn't justify the cost for stock lights when I could get these guys for a few more dollars. I'll post some pictures afterwards and we'll see if I have the same experience. I hope not!

 

The e-codes are defantly the housings to get for the 200m lense trucks.

The low beam is so nice, its not the stupid spotty DOT pattern, its a very very smooth even pattern (looks like a blanket of light) with a great cutoff that won't blind on comming traffic.

The high beam is great!

The 100/80w Xeon blue bulbs are probibly the best hella has.. They work great in all weather but at night in the rain or snow. But as most of you know, yellow lights are what you want for those conditions.

Thats why I have 3rd set of forward facing lights, yellow fogs just for that..

 

Sorry, I mis-typed that, should have proof read it. The low beam was better, the high beam was less than impressive.

I was not sure if it was the the lense or the bulbs, so, rather than spend more money I went ahead and bought the Hella stuff, as a guy on E-bay was selling the lenses for $90. I also bought the Hella 100/80 blue bulbs. The high beam pattern with the Hella E-codes is outstanding and the 80W low beams are amazing. I adjusted them a bit lower and had a buddy drive my rig while I drove his in the opposite direction. It is not blinding to other drivers in the opposite direction, no worse than most of the Euro cars on the rode.

Thanks for catching my error,

Mike

 

No worries man, it's important to me just because I almost never use the high beams, and I have some fogs I'm installing which should accompany the high beams if they are poor. So I wanted to make sure at least the low beams would be better, and by all accounts they will be. $90 + bulb is actually within my range, perhaps I will end up getting the Hellas too...

The lights should be in on Friday; sooner than I thought. Will hopefully install over the weekend.

 

1) Putting HID's in anything except a proper projector is dangerous. I've been there, done that, and it's not worth it. If you're going to run HID's in your truck, grab some crappy ebay housings and retrofit some FX35 projectors in them. (bixenon, and a PROPER cutoff)

2) Rewiring the headlights and good bulbs makes a world of difference, even on the crappy stock lighting. Do it. No, seriously, just do it. If you can crimp and use a DVOM, you can make your own wiring harness for about $25-$30 using good parts. http://www.parts-express.com/home.cfm is your friend. Grab some relay harnesses, sealed Tyco relays, good crimpers (ratcheting), and some wire. The tools will put the cost over my aforementioned price, but it's well worth it. Or you can just solder, but a proper sealed crimp is better.

3) The addition of a simple diode will allow you to have quad beams. (lows stay on with highs- great for backroad/country driving)- works great!

4) Cibie's are way better housings, but the Hella E-codes are decent.

 

I would like you to show me this

this is relevent to my interests

 

More info please, very interested in this.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Looks good! Which kit did you use?

I'm selling my Hella 500s and converting my sealed beam headlights over to H4 HIDs. If that isn't enough I'll look into either Hella 4000s HID or Lightforce HIDs.

 

Is there a write up on how to do this? Would this reduce the life of the bulb? I know there are kits for the newer chevy's that will enable the low beams to be on with the high beams but i never new you could do it for our toyotas.

Thanks-Blake

 

What's the difference in these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=180396558660

and these? http://www.performanceoffroadcenter....oducts_id=1170

 

The vision plus aren't as good as the e-codes. E-codes have a much better lighting pattern. If you live somewhere where they will pay close attention to your headlights, get the vision plus, as they're DOT legal.

I have E-codes.

As for those of you wondering about the diode modification, it's to be used ONLY if you rewire your headlights using external relays, otherwise you'll burn out the diode, AND possibly fry your wiring in short order.

All you have to do, is on your rewire harness, jump the diode from your high beam switch (not the high beam power) to the low beam switch. The only current that the diode should be carrying is to power the relay for your low beams, NOT the current to actually power the headlight!

Also, it's best if you build your own harness, that way you can put the diode in the new male end headlight connector before it goes to your relays.

By the way, this is the connector that you'll want the diode in:

I've been running mine like this for a while, and have noticed no problems at all. However, if you do it incorrectly, you can really fry some wiring.

 

looks good? that light pattern is horrible! its beam cut off spread all over the place and the glare from it must be completely blinding to oncoming traffic. that is the exact reason you shouldnt put HIDs into non projector housings.

 

i've been very happy with the lights... i havent had anyone flash my yet.. the HIDs are a kit i sell..

 

Ok, So I have a question...

I have a 92 4runner, and Im going to be getting some electrical work done on the front of my truck. and One of the things I want done are HID head lights. Now, I read through this entire thread. According to this thread, I need an H4 conversion head light, yet no one in the U.S makes one for a 92-95 4runner with the full flush head light...? is that correct?


If that is correct, I need to buy h4 conversion lights... will these work?

http://www.roughtrax4x4.com/?doc=16&cid=741&vid=1221

http://www.roughtrax4x4.com/?doc=16&cid=741&vid=1222

http://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/sunris...ems/h-0007.jpg
(they're sold individually, so that's why I linked both)

If someone can simplify this for me, that would be great

 

you can run hids in the 4runner composite headlights. They are h4!

You will blind everyone tho

 

Im gonna put a 6k HID in my head lights and do the whole side marker blinker mod... My blinkers are gonna be on at all times but blink with the side markers when, of course, I change lanes

Im going with 6k becuse, blue or violet wont really match anything and I want my head lights to match my side markers and blinkers... heh :/ im tedious about that kind of stuff.

Thanks Jay, for the reply you told me what I need to know....... muahahah hah

 

92-95 4runners have a 9004 bulb

 

A couple weeks ago I ordered and installed the $40 kit Elton first posted about. They shipped quickly, they were cheap, and they worked really well. The guy still has a steady supply and does accept reasonable offers if you want higher wattage bulbs; I went with the 55lo/100hi for no extra cost. Install was a snap, fit and finish is just as solid as my original Sylvania 6054 units. Nice and bright. Anyone using 6054 bulbs: I highly recommend the swap! For an older car, I just don't see the cost/benefit reasoning of anything more expensive...

 

anyone want to sum up this whole thread in like 5 sentences for me?? 11 pages is a little much

 

Ill tell you what i remember.

Hella E code lights (200mm), H4 bulbs, and you should upgrade the harness for the lights. 4crawler.com has it.

Go read through this tread tho.