Cold Start injector intermittent, HELP!
#161
I'm a little confused on this part. So put t-pins in each relay female plug and test the voltage from the pin to the battery ground?
#162
skip the drop test. Just re check the voltage at the ECU, you've done this one before, if it's still low compared to battery voltage we can revisit the where, how, and why.
#163
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#167
better than I expected but probably low enough to stop it from starting. It's going to want a jump probably.. I expected it would be low from the readings the other day, low twelve followed by the high 14
#169
#170
I’m going to go steal a friends tonight because I don’t have a charger other than it running. I did check fuel pressure for you but did not test ecu because of low voltage at the battery
#171
If you can get cables to it five or ten minutes will get you going.
#172
I know lol. I have jumper cables but if the battery is going out I need a new one anyway I’ll jump it and see if that makes a difference before grabbing his battery. But if it’s running and charging at 14v why would it die out. Doesn’t this eliminate the battery being an issue
Last edited by YotaRick27; Feb 21, 2018 at 05:28 PM.
#173
Well schucks after typing 2 full paragraphs it times out and lost it. so again: I prommied you voltage checks and fuel pressure. Voltage checks will have to wait due to my having low voltage last night and waiting for my wife to come home so I can jump my truck. Fuel pressure was 39psi at cranking and 35 when not cranking. I could not get it to fire up last night even after being jumped. even the AFM delete then plug in trick did not work. I did however get a call yesterday from the doc saying I have strept throat so thats fun. I took friday off to do nothing but work on the truck so either tonight or tomorrowi will have the updated ECU voltage checks for you.
I did want to re-tackle the issue of a possible flooding. it makes sense that if the truck starts and runs great cold then once warm is getting to much fuel then dies. Possibility 1: cold start injector is leaking(even though its unplugged) Possibility 2: coolent sensor next to the cold start injector time switch is giving motor mixed signals.
What to check? maybe pull a plug and see if its wet? Pull intake and see if intake galleys are wet (they were last time I pulled the intake). Ideas? suggestions?
Again I very much so appreciate all the Help and sorry for not grabbing the voltage checks.
I did want to re-tackle the issue of a possible flooding. it makes sense that if the truck starts and runs great cold then once warm is getting to much fuel then dies. Possibility 1: cold start injector is leaking(even though its unplugged) Possibility 2: coolent sensor next to the cold start injector time switch is giving motor mixed signals.
What to check? maybe pull a plug and see if its wet? Pull intake and see if intake galleys are wet (they were last time I pulled the intake). Ideas? suggestions?
Again I very much so appreciate all the Help and sorry for not grabbing the voltage checks.
#174
..I could not get it to fire up last night even after being jumped. even the AFM delete then plug in trick did not work...
I did want to re-tackle the issue of a possible flooding. it makes sense that if the truck starts and runs great cold then once warm is getting to much fuel then dies. Possibility 1: cold start injector is leaking(even though its unplugged)
... Pull intake and see if intake galleys are wet (they were last time I pulled the intake). Ideas? suggestions?
Again I very much so appreciate all the Help and sorry for not grabbing the voltage checks.
I did want to re-tackle the issue of a possible flooding. it makes sense that if the truck starts and runs great cold then once warm is getting to much fuel then dies. Possibility 1: cold start injector is leaking(even though its unplugged)
... Pull intake and see if intake galleys are wet (they were last time I pulled the intake). Ideas? suggestions?
Again I very much so appreciate all the Help and sorry for not grabbing the voltage checks.
Need more details on the wet intake. "You have to put us in front of the truck."
To clear a flood condition, unplug cold start injector, pull efi fuse, crank engine with throttle pedal to the floor. (Crank for ten to fifteen seconds, let it cool off for sixty to avoid heating of starter and fusible links ect, then repeat.) Plug those items back in and try to start it normally. If it doesn't start verify spark.
Last edited by Co_94_PU; Feb 22, 2018 at 07:45 AM. Reason: Double quotes
#175
From what I am gathering at the ECU one is TSW and the other is THW correct?
#176
Why is your cold start injector unplugged? You did not think this is part of why it would not start in the cold?
Need more details on the wet intake. "You have to put us in front of the truck."
To clear a flood condition, unplug cold start injector, pull efi fuse, crank engine with throttle pedal to the floor. (Crank for ten to fifteen seconds, let it cool off for sixty to avoid heating of starter and fusible links ect, then repeat.) Plug those items back in and try to start it normally. If it doesn't start verify spark.
Need more details on the wet intake. "You have to put us in front of the truck."
To clear a flood condition, unplug cold start injector, pull efi fuse, crank engine with throttle pedal to the floor. (Crank for ten to fifteen seconds, let it cool off for sixty to avoid heating of starter and fusible links ect, then repeat.) Plug those items back in and try to start it normally. If it doesn't start verify spark.
Last edited by YotaRick27; Feb 22, 2018 at 07:55 AM.
#177
So After work today and tomorrow my goal is to identify TSW and THW and verify they are operational as well as to do a flooding test after I get updated ECU voltage for # 1,2,3,6 and 11.
#178
The picture is of the wet your are concerned about? Looks like oil from here, from the positive crank pressure valve (PCV), fuel would have evaporated while you were doing all that wiring.
#179
You test if the CSI is leaking by pulling it away from the intake (leave it plugged in, leave it plumbed to fuel), like in the video, power up the fuel pump and look at the injector. There is a spec for so many drop over a span of time, neither number I remember, as long as it's not a trickle or worse I wouldn't worry about it.
The picture is of the wet your are concerned about? Looks like oil from here, from the positive crank pressure valve (PCV), fuel would have evaporated while you were doing all that wiring.
The picture is of the wet your are concerned about? Looks like oil from here, from the positive crank pressure valve (PCV), fuel would have evaporated while you were doing all that wiring.
#180
Put your meter to the beeping continuity mode, unplug wire from the sensor, Clip probe to the wire in the engine bay, take the other probe to the ECU, when you get a beep take a photo.. Show us where it goes and what color it is. There is absolutely no better way to be sure what wire goes to what.
TSW, is/was in the loom between the intake runners. Think it's typically brown or green.
THW, is/was in the front loom. From memory its with the CSIsw and tps.
Get us a photo of the sensor between the cylinders. I think at some point you said you have an aftermarket temp guage there?



