Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

Can't peel out in dirt, power problem?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-10-2010, 01:11 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
edeslaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can't peel out in dirt, power problem?

87 4Runner, automatic, new engine, new turbo, running 225s (yes, really).

Won't make marks in dirt doing a WOT launch (put in D, punch it).

First Toyota, but assuming this has to be totally wrong? What will yours do? Videos welcome! LOL
Old 07-10-2010, 01:42 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
myyota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: GrangeVille, Idaho
Posts: 4,166
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by edeslaur
87 4Runner, automatic, new engine, new turbo, running 225s (yes, really).

Won't make marks in dirt doing a WOT launch (put in D, punch it).

First Toyota, but assuming this has to be totally wrong? What will yours do? Videos welcome! LOL
The main reason your 4Runner has no power is because of the automatic transmission, the best thing you could do for your 4Runner is to swap in a 5 speed manual transmission, but if that`s not an option then regearing would be the next choice. Either one of those options will help you.
Old 07-10-2010, 01:42 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
edeslaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah, I'm asking for non-clutch-dump events.

Like: Put it in first, let the clutch out gently, when the clutch is all the way out, pin it.
Old 07-10-2010, 01:55 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
peow130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 3,887
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
I can do it without dumping my clutch, lol.
you have an auto, though. so it's harder.
Old 07-10-2010, 02:04 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
edeslaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Love to hear from you AT folks! Turbo or non!!
Old 07-10-2010, 04:51 PM
  #6  
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Swimmerboy2112's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Walnutport, PA
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Just hold the brake, and the gas at the same time then rip your foot off the brake. . .
Old 07-10-2010, 06:08 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
pruney81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Leadville Colorado
Posts: 1,600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't have to dump my clutch at all, the auto's with the 3VZE's are pretty slow, and I have never driven, and can't imagine what it would be like to have an auto with the 22re.

Also, you have a huge blog there about your truck but no pictures......

Just saying

Last edited by pruney81; 07-10-2010 at 06:11 PM.
Old 07-10-2010, 06:23 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
yotarover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 789
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
mine wont either, it will in gravel though the brake gas combo is the only way i can burn out as well hopefully I'll get a 5sp swap soon
Old 07-12-2010, 07:21 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: piney hicks nj
Posts: 3,120
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i have an auto 22re, cant peel out in dirt or pavent. i can peel out in dirt if im turning or using the brakes, burnouts usng the brake, are about 50mph on dirt and 20mph on pavement, im looking to do a 5spd. swap soon though
Old 07-12-2010, 07:44 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
turkeykiller365's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what?! i have an 88 pickup 22re AT not turbo, and i peel everywhere. hills, flat on pavement, and turning. if im on dirt all i do is spin. its annoying actually. i mean its a "one wheel peel" but i chirp all the time.
Old 07-12-2010, 07:57 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
4x4runr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: guam
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
when my runner was still an auto (3.0) i was able to burn out in dirt. your trans sounds like it's giving up. not now but it will lolol. I swaped in a manual trans and it feels like a v8 until i hit 50mph lolololol...
Old 07-12-2010, 08:17 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: piney hicks nj
Posts: 3,120
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
well my truck is all clogged up so it lack alot of power...

my dads one freind has an 86 22r 5 speed 2wd, and i remember him telling mehes always flooring it, and trying to do burnouts, but the 22r's and re's just lack alot of power...wich is kinda odd for and old guy to say
Old 07-17-2010, 08:29 AM
  #13  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
edeslaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not the trans giving up, the motor not putting out any power.

This helps, thanks. Compared to the memory of my 1986 Honda Accord, this thing is gutless, I knew it had to be wrong. Valve cover coming off later this weekend to see if the cam was misinstalled when they rebuilt the motor.
Old 07-17-2010, 09:23 AM
  #14  
Registered User
 
shaeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 912
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Simple things first. Check your timing before pulling the cam cover. Both mechanical AND ignition. If either one is set incorrectly, (especially retarded) your truck will be gutless.

I'm 5 speed, but w/ 31x10.5 BFG MT's along with a Tru-Track posi rear, powered by the almighty (LOL) 22re, I can roll into the throttle and light up the rears in gravel or dirt easily.
Old 07-17-2010, 05:23 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
85gijunk4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: piney hicks nj
Posts: 3,120
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
lol, lets not forget that 22re's are only 96 horsepower at 2800rpm and 126 ft lbs @4800 rpm...im guessing thats probably around 50 horse at 1-2000 rpm lol not to mention the trucks a few thousand lbs. too.

3000lbs + 96 horsepower = pretty darn slow haha loll

but on a serious not, it does sound like your lacking power
Old 07-17-2010, 05:48 PM
  #16  
Registered User
 
whorider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Scotts Valley, CA
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seriously, this threads response's are lame! I can't believe I just read most of it. OP isn't asking if you can peel out in your manual transmission.
Sounds like your tranny is slipping. Have you serviced it? Fluid condition? What RPM does the converter stall? How does it drive on the street going up hills?
Old 07-17-2010, 06:05 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
1990yota-pickup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: hubert nc
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
get a book on transmission and read it..

watch that video on youtube about dumping a few cap fulls of atf in your intake..
Old 07-17-2010, 09:56 PM
  #18  
Registered User
 
erock13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 192
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pruney81
I can make my rear tires chirp on pavement with my 1990 22re 4WD single cab, it's a 5 speed though
ive never been able to figure out how to chirp my tires.. how do you do that exactly?
Old 07-17-2010, 10:44 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
yotarover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 789
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by 1990yota-pickup
get a book on transmission and read it..

watch that video on youtube about dumping a few cap fulls of atf in your intake..

Atf in the intake?
Old 07-18-2010, 06:31 AM
  #20  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
99blackSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hard acceleration in 1st on dirt and gravel no problem. Haven't tried a clutch dump on pavement though, afraid of the consequences.


Quick Reply: Can't peel out in dirt, power problem?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:14 AM.