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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Camber issues

Ever since I put on my 1.5" BJ spacers on my 2nd gen. the tires have been wearing unevenly. The outside is going bald while the inside stays meaty.

Are there like camber kits that fix this?

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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Same problem occurs when you crank the t-bars. Its due to toyotas positioning of the control arms. The best way to fix this is do a drop bracket lift, or just get it aligned the best they can. No matter what you will still be experiencing some form of advanced wear on the outside.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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How does the drop bracket lift work?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Lowers the lower control arm down, restoring factory geometry settings
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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I have the same problem. You learn to just deal with it and make sure you have a good long warranty on your alignments if you plan on wheeling your 4runner. lol, discount tire hates my runner. Takes like 2 hours to align it every time i take it in.

DC, happen to know where one could find a drop bracket lift outside of a kit?

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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Just align it. Works on mine. Better yet, nix the lift by loosening the torsion bars. You'll still benefit from the extra flex.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Oh ok I see. Would you happen to know where I could get the drop bracket lift?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Skyjacker and Ranco I think are 2 names for those..

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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Hmm.. looks like I'd have to buy a whole lift kit to fix it. I can't seem to find any parts.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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I'm thinking of giving jackit a call. They're an ohio or utah based suspension sales that can usually find what i need separately for dirt cheap. Unfortunately they're not open at 11pm PST but i'll let you know what i find out.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hostile
I'm thinking of giving jackit a call. They're an ohio or utah based suspension sales that can usually find what i need separately for dirt cheap. Unfortunately they're not open at 11pm PST but i'll let you know what i find out.
Lol. Cool man. Thanks a lot.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Oh, So would a diff drop kit fix it?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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No. A visit to an alignment shop might though.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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I believe that Dana 60 you were telling me about would fix it too, Scott.





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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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It'll make it easier to align and it'll hold it's alignment for longer, not to mention give you more flex and a smoother ride since you could loosen up those torsion bars. Smoother ride is what i'm looking for. My t-bars are bouncing me all over the place. I think i should take mine a couple turns down but i don't want to pay for another alignment. =/
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Old May 15, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scuba
I believe that Dana 60 you were telling me about would fix it too, Scott.






Lol. I wish. Right now a toyota sas isn't anywhere in the near future really. lol.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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It'll make it easier to align and it'll hold it's alignment for longer, not to mention give you more flex and a smoother ride since you could loosen up those torsion bars. Smoother ride is what i'm looking for. My t-bars are bouncing me all over the place. I think i should take mine a couple turns down but i don't want to pay for another alignment. =/
Oh I see. So does the diff drop kit lift it at all?
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Old May 15, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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No, the diff drop has NOTHING to do with anything suspension or steering-related. It merely lessens the CV shaft angle so you don't wear them out/ break them.

On IFS, the diff is attached to the frame. I suggest you go and figure out how it all originally fit together and worked before you go modify anything.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Someday folks will understand turning your torsion bars doesn't stiffen them, it only effects arm angles.

Get an alignment, but before you do that adjust your torsion bars to where you want them (ride heigh, arm angle) .. The closer they are to stock position the better chance the shop will have at getting a 0 camber. BJ spacers effect all the geometry, your tires will no longer stay in camber as the suspenion articulates. As the suspension compress the top of the tire will bend out, and vice versa for down travel, the tire will lean in.

This is because with the spacers the arms are no longer parallel each other.

Set the height, get it aligned and rotate your tires.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by drew303
Someday folks will understand turning your torsion bars doesn't stiffen them, it only effects arm angles.
Hmmm...I'm thinking the "stiffening" described has more to do with the control arms riding on or close to the bump stops. I don't think anybody is claiming the torsions gained any resistance or stiffness from being tightened to increase ride height, but I could be wrong.

I like the idea of installing BJ spacers and lowering torsions. I'll be trying that theory out tomorrow hopefully.

Looking at SMOD's avatar I'd say he could use some loosening of the torsions. It looks like you're hauling some serious weight in the back end of that thing......or the front is lifted way too high.
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