alternative to clutch pedal
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alternative to clutch pedal
I'm thinking of ways to remove the clutch pedal. I know motorcycled have a grip handle for the clutch, and older super beetles (VW) have an auto stick.
Anyone have any ideas to remove the pedal? I was thinking of *MAYBE* installing a button or trigger on my stick shift that activates the clutch release system. Anyone have any better ideas?
Anyone have any ideas to remove the pedal? I was thinking of *MAYBE* installing a button or trigger on my stick shift that activates the clutch release system. Anyone have any better ideas?
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Playing with paddle shifters, no, that ain't gonna do it.....
Instead lieu of a clutch pedal find a way to attach a modified handgrip to the shifter shaft or to the shifter grip itself, so that your shifter hand is both disengaging/shifting/engaging. Shouldn't be too hard to master, could even still slip/feather the darned thing.
Is there or have you checked into what hand controls are available, or are they all for autos?
Instead lieu of a clutch pedal find a way to attach a modified handgrip to the shifter shaft or to the shifter grip itself, so that your shifter hand is both disengaging/shifting/engaging. Shouldn't be too hard to master, could even still slip/feather the darned thing.
Is there or have you checked into what hand controls are available, or are they all for autos?
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hmmm go auto then or maybe you can do something with mountain bike brake lever that's for hydro setup...
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-ST-M97.../dp/B0014ZLGHG
it's an idea.
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-ST-M97.../dp/B0014ZLGHG
it's an idea.
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I have the feeling the clutch takes a bit more input force than a bike brake lever will create.
Hand throttle would be much easier and make more sense IMHO
Hand throttle would be much easier and make more sense IMHO
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I would even go for an electronic pedal (more like a button with a pedal cover) that actuates the clutch system. It wouldnt be good for slowly letting the clutch out, but I can always keep the clutch pedal in place for when I need to use it more intricately.
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A motorcycle clutch is this big () and a car clutch is this big (((((()))))). Gonna take a little more force. Standard dirtbike is around 40hp. Both motorcycle and car clutches are hydraulic. Think about trying to squeeze your clutch pedal with your hand all day. Anyways, car brakes are vacuum boosted, maybe you could retrofit some type of vacuum booster to it? But you would loose all feeling and shifting would be rough.
Search Pirate, there was a thread about this a few days ago. Someone who had leg/knee problems.
Search Pirate, there was a thread about this a few days ago. Someone who had leg/knee problems.
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Two I can think of that I have used on Harley motorcycles not sure if they can/will work on a car/truck but maybe you can look into them
1. air shifter (push button has its own air tank)
2. suicide shift style hand clutch on the shift rod
1. air shifter (push button has its own air tank)
2. suicide shift style hand clutch on the shift rod
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i think an suicide style shifter would be the most user friendly although i don't think any of the idea's are practical. i think you would need some sort of assist otherwise your end up with an fore arm about the size of your calf...lol maybe an remote style clutch trigger on the shifter that operates an electric ram of some sort that would allow you complete control of how much or how little clutch pressure.
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I had an old Beetle with an autostick. It had a torque converter attached to the engine and a vacuum operated clutch between that and the transmission. That kind of system could work if you could figure out how to get both a torque converter and a clutch on your truck.
Another idea is to make a really short throw clutch, possibly by installing a larger bored master clutch cylinder, and then install a vacuum booster so it is easy to press. That way it could be operated by just twisting your ankle instead of your knee. A small hand lever operated by a cable could also be attached to it. That way you could use either your hand or your foot.
I have seen a brake booster on an old truck that was installed in the hydraulic line after the master cylinder, not in front of it like in modern vehicles. Something like that could probably work in the clutch system. I also remember seeing a vacuum clutch booster installed before the master cylinder. I think it was on a Land Cruiser, but I am not sure. I can do some research if you are interested.
Another idea is to make a really short throw clutch, possibly by installing a larger bored master clutch cylinder, and then install a vacuum booster so it is easy to press. That way it could be operated by just twisting your ankle instead of your knee. A small hand lever operated by a cable could also be attached to it. That way you could use either your hand or your foot.
I have seen a brake booster on an old truck that was installed in the hydraulic line after the master cylinder, not in front of it like in modern vehicles. Something like that could probably work in the clutch system. I also remember seeing a vacuum clutch booster installed before the master cylinder. I think it was on a Land Cruiser, but I am not sure. I can do some research if you are interested.
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If you check with Toyota dealer they can put you in touch with local [or nearly] local firms that modify vehicles with hand controls for the physically challenged. There are hand clutch systems available...
here's a link to one site with a description of one method http://www.amphicar.net/minnow/controls_of.htm
It's a little involved since it also retains the stock pedal, but with an hydrolic booster actvated by the hand lever on the shifter you could generate more then enough force to move the clutch master...
here's a link to one site with a description of one method http://www.amphicar.net/minnow/controls_of.htm
It's a little involved since it also retains the stock pedal, but with an hydrolic booster actvated by the hand lever on the shifter you could generate more then enough force to move the clutch master...
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If you check with Toyota dealer they can put you in touch with local [or nearly] local firms that modify vehicles with hand controls for the physically challenged. There are hand clutch systems available...
here's a link to one site with a description of one method http://www.amphicar.net/minnow/controls_of.htm
It's a little involved since it also retains the stock pedal, but with an hydrolic booster actvated by the hand lever on the shifter you could generate more then enough force to move the clutch master...
here's a link to one site with a description of one method http://www.amphicar.net/minnow/controls_of.htm
It's a little involved since it also retains the stock pedal, but with an hydrolic booster actvated by the hand lever on the shifter you could generate more then enough force to move the clutch master...
Though I'd much rather do it myself. Seems like a nifty project.
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