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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Almost crashed at 60mph!!!

Going to see this girl about 10 miles away to take her to the snow. I'm about to take a right hand turn on a freeway on ramp with a Jetta following me. Its about a 35 degree right hander. Anyway, I entered doing approx 60 (too fast...not excessively since I've taken it at 70mph before) and all of a sudden my back end gives out. I'm completely sideways in the middle of the road and I have my tires locked up. It straightens out and I skid off the road. This is getting REALLY annoying. Its been happening ALL the time. I look like an idiot when my rear end comes out. It happened in my school parking lot too.

So, what do I do? New tires? Thanks guys!

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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put a couple bags of sand in your bed...


...slow down?
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Well, did you make it to the girl in time?, thats all that matters


but realy, did you make it?

Are the old ones warn out?
do the "Penny Check"
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Slowing down would help. Yes, I made it to the girl in time...lol.

They are crappy Les Schwab brand all-terrains. I'll do the penny check.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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1st thing to do:
learn how to drive (some call it defensive driving... in my experience, understanding operating a vehicle at the 'technical level' leads to offensive driving: acting before other drivers do something)... oh and that leads to...
2nd thing to consider:
Newtonian physics (paraphrased: objects at rest or in motion tend to resist changes to their state; an action is met with an equal-yet-opposite reaction; gravity acting through friction keeps your truck controllable and any time either one of those forces is acted against, you're in trouble) which basically means that if you lost control and have violated #3:
3rd thing to remember:
no woman is worth wrecking your ride.

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
1st thing to do:
learn how to drive (some call it defensive driving... in my experience, understanding operating a vehicle at the 'technical level' leads to offensive driving: acting before other drivers do something)... oh and that leads to...
2nd thing to consider:
Newtonian physics (paraphrased: objects at rest or in motion tend to resist changes to their state; an action is met with an equal-yet-opposite reaction; gravity acting through friction keeps your truck controllable and any time either one of those forces is acted against, you're in trouble) which basically means that if you lost control and have violated #3:
3rd thing to remember:
no woman is worth wrecking your ride.
Oh, i beg to differ, it depends on how cute she is
and what kind of ride your in
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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I know how to drive. I'm not gonna say I'm the best driver. But I take risks and chances. Each and everyone I learn from. Yeah...i guess in your terms it must be "common sense" that the back would slide out right? Considering my other truck which was 200lbs heavier AND was a foot longer (long bed) NEVER did this.

She is cute.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Slow down for corners.

A couple bags of sand (aim for ~100lbs). Sounds like you need snow tires/ cable chains. Ultimately though, how you drive it is going to have the greatest effect. Slow down. Imagine you have an un-teathered grandfather clock standing upright in the truck bed.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt16
Slow down for corners.

A couple bags of sand (aim for ~100lbs). Sounds like you need snow tires/ cable chains. Ultimately though, how you drive it is going to have the greatest effect. Slow down. Imagine you have an un-teathered grandfather clock standing upright in the truck bed.
But I have two cojones between my legs


Sounds like I just need to slow down...at least I didn't smack the guard rail...I'm thinking if I trash the body work I'll get fiberglass parts and slowly turn her into a pre-runner.

Looks like I'll just slow down
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Oh, i beg to differ, it depends on how cute she is
and what kind of ride your in
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She is cute.
and I'm sure she'll respect you more if you wreck your truck while going to see her. that would ruin her day/night (depending) and when the reason got out: "He was going fast and lost control of his truck around a corner he's driven for years, so he should've known what to do. he don't know how to drive."

yep.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
and I'm sure she'll respect you more if you wreck your truck while going to see her. that would ruin her day/night (depending) and when the reason got out: "He was going fast and lost control of his truck around a corner he's driven for years, so he should've known what to do."

yep.
I totally understand...and we had a great day regardless

It is totally my fault. There is no one to blame except me...I was behind the wheel and speeding.

I have driven it for 3+ years now and never have had that happen. Guess its just the sweet 20/80 weight distribution this truck has and my speeding.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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You think your 2wd butt slides out now, wait till you put a locker in!
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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True. Sometimes i give it gas and get her sideways for fun. lol. But sometimes its just annoying as hell.

Okay, rear tread on tires are worn out. Looks like I'll have to replace them. The fronts have plenty of tread.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
Okay, rear tread on tires are worn out. Looks like I'll have to replace them. The fronts have plenty of tread.
Uuum...rotate...
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBluePile
Uuum...rotate...
that's great to keep the rear from sliding, but wait till you have to get on the brakes hard...
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Add some weight, you need to for snow driving anyway. I have a piece of 1.25" plate, 24x14 (150 lbs or so) that I have had in 4 different trucks, works great
...there a not a lot of on ramps that I can think of down in Salem you can take in a pick up at 60-70 miles per hour..Schwab rotates their tires for free every 5K miles...
Glad you still got to see the girl

edit: I guess I should have mentioned that the steel has a 3/4" plywood frame that fits between the wheel wells and back edge of the bed that the metal sits in a cut out. It keeps the metal from sliding around. It than has a metal strap that runs over the top of it. Between that and a rubber matt, it has never moved even during winter wheeling.

Right now though the hunk of steel is between trucks, not needed in my Tahoe or my Trekker.

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
that's great to keep the rear from sliding, but wait till you have to get on the brakes hard...
no, no I mean on a regular interval!
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Well seeing that your only 18 years old, take the advise that every one is giving you and slow down, in the end it will save your life.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by myyota
Well seeing that your only 18 years old, take the advise that every one is giving you and slow down, in the end it will save your life.
or maybe someone elses?
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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I knew that getting his truck running right would cause problems.
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