I think that you also need to check your Grammar.

 

I was stationed in Germany for 4 years, and not once did the European and American Spec built vehicles with factory installed HID’s ever hurt or impair my driving.

 

Then you are lucky. For me, they are painful, and frustrating.

 

Okay. Will do.

However, while my grammar may not be perfect, I do use some sentence structure, and spell correctly most of the time.

I have no issue with minor misspellings and imperfect grammar. But SOME punctuation isn't too much to ask, is it?

 

semantics...

you guys know that Norbert knows not how to spell OR punctuate...
geez... its not that bad...

and about the headlights, Illinoise (i think) has already banned them, and all that does is make the dealerships who buy the vehicles from the factory have to swap those HIDs out with retrofit kits...
what does that do? drive up the cost a little...

it makes no sense to stop using HIDs... altho they are bright, the safety that comes with using them outweighs it...
my girlfriend has an o5 scion that is lowered, and driving down the road we see HIDs all night long... and being so low, you would think that i would hate them, but no... i love them... and thats worse than driving my runner because we are soo much lower and get more of a direct light...

i say, if you dont like HIDs, then tough cookies...

AAAAAAAAnd, as far as im concerned, the "correct" way to mount HIDs is to use a projector housing... that way it elimenates the flood effect...

 

I can't stand HID's. Most of the time they are not aimed correctly, and even when they are, as soon as the car hits a bump that wall of light shifts up right into your eyes (or your mirrors)...

People drove for a long time without these things, heck headlights where never designed to light up that much..
Makes sence if you think about it, if your eyes are adjusted to that bright of light, if something happens and you need to see in the dark you're screwed...

Go with some nice non-sealed h4 style lenses (I really like my hella e-codes) and some good bulbs. You're lighting will be great without blinding other drivers...

 

Most of the time they are aimed perfectly.

When the come stock they are already aimed from the factory, but with any car if you hit a bump it throws it off and will send more light than normal upwards where it can blind you. That's not just HID's.

LOL, people also drove for a very long time getting 10 MPG with Carbs and no Cats.

For longer than that we rode horses with a Lamp to provide light.

Should we all ditch our Cars and Trucks and go back to Riding Horses to work?

Headlights were as bright as we could make them cost effectively.

LOL, that makes no sense at all! By your logic we should drive around at night with no lights on, so I eyes can be adjusted for the dark at all times?

If you need to do something in the dark, wait 2 mintues your eyes will adjust and you can see as well as the darkness will allow.....

H4 bulbs can blind if not aimed correctly too. I had some 65 Watt PIAA's in H4 housings and trust me, they were just as bad if not worse than HID's.




Me too

Ok, so that's just you. HID's bother you and only you so much, then stay off the road.

That's all I can tell you.

The whole world is not going to revolve around you, and the fact that something annoys you. For the 98% of society they don't bother anyone.

You must just be too sensitive to the lights. Sorry, but that's the hand you were dealt.

They are not going anywhere. But seriously if every 3rd car blinds you, it's not just the HID's. You need to get some Sunglasses that adjust to the light and wear them at night.

Go see an eye Dr. because it sounds to me like you have a problem that's more serious than HID's.


That's silly.

I wonder what they are going to do, when all cars go HID?

People are going to go across state lines to buy their cars lol.

I agree, a Projector is the best way to go, but not always needed.

 

when i had my dodge neon with after market projector headlights with hids in them i never had a problem with them ever and yes projectors are MADE for hids there cut at the top so they dont blind or any light is sent up only just in front of the car/truck go ahead test drive any car out there with projectors and park right in front of a wall and look, youll see the light is cut off.


as for my gramer all i can say is wow and my god but heres my very from the heart IM SORRY i though this was a group of people that talked about there trucks not a home schooling done over the internet so when you talk to someone face to face do you make them talk the way you like them to or just go about your day?

 

Actually Projectors where first used to get rid of the whole headlight housing.

It uses the concept of a parabolic lens to focus the light.

It's a better way to achive the same results. They have been using projectors since before HID's.

HID's are just better focus'ed when used with Projectors.



Who cares about grammer and spelling?

It won't save your ass on the trail lol.

 

With HID's the light output is so much more its MUCH worse then any conventional light setup.

There is no reason to have to have daylight in front of you, while blinding 50% of the other drivers..

HID's are teh suck...

 

The hid thing to me is like when you are traveling down the highway when its dark and having someone in the oncoming lane with their highbeams on. The best thing to do is to not look at them! Keep your eyes away, pointed in the direction you are going and it isn't a big deal. I don't know, but maybe some peoples eyes are more sensitive than others. IDK.

 

It's all a matter of perception.

To some people even Halogens are too bright.... As every 3rd car blinds them.

There are plenty of reasons to have Daylight in front of you. Mainly so you can see what is in front of you... Me personally I like to see cats, dogs, deer, or anything else dumb enough to try and cross a road in the middle of the night as far in front of me as possible.

Properly setup HID's don't blind 50% of drivers. More like 5%.

If it was truly that high the Goverment would step in and do something because the number of accidents would go up a noticable amount. They spend millions of dollars each year investigating accidents. They would eventually find out about this.

Now my question is, most people here drive a truck. Some a lifted truck.

If you are still getting blinded by someone who is driving a car, then you need sunglasses to drive at night.

If you are talking about those guys who drive the Lifted Trucks and have HID's that are aimed right in your face. Yes it's annoying, even I have been blinded by them.

But that's less than 1% of the population.....

It's been said a million times before. It's much easier to take away a right (the right to have HID's in this case) than it is to gain a right.

Just food for thought.....

 

Yes, my truck is lifted pretty high. A little higher then a stock fullsize infact.
When a car comming in my direction with HIDs hits a bump in the road, or a slight incline all of the light shines directly into my face..

With a regular halogan setup the light does not shine that far (or that brightly/concentrated). The halogans can blind you, but they are not even remotely as bad as the HID's.

I drove my truck for years with shotty old headlights (like.. two yellow candles). I managed to avoid many a animals and idiots that have ducked in front of my truck... If you need daylight in front of you to see that, you might be needing some glasses.

I don't know about you, but I have seen MANY mis-aimed hid's before. I don't know how, but they are out there. But, I swear 80% of the public has mis-aimed headlights. Im sure this has some sort of impact of the amount of people who want HID's...


Government? Step in on the subject of HID's?..... right

Take away a right? What the s... are you taking about?

 

I thought this thread might have good info....I was wrong.

the reason for the glare is people don't use anything to focus the light. I have never been flashed in my truck with Bi Xenon and non fluted housings. I dont have projectors either. In other country's HID's have been stock for over 15 years and nobody has issues with them like i have seen on this thread.

I install HID and Bi xenon in every car i own and even my friends cars and nobody has an issue. Its the kids that get like 10,000k hids and just throw them in stock headlights with no adjustments that are the problems. I wont sell the 10,000k kits and if anyone asks for over 8,000k tell them i simply wont sell to them unless they get kits that are not obnoxious for oncoming drivers.

old kits that had more glare then the new ones...Almost doesn't look HID


My 6,000k bixenon kit that i used for testing....BTW the bulbs in the 4runner are normal sealed beam lights and mine dont glare much more


Bixenon projectors in euro housings looks OEM

 

I think you are simply thinking it's shining all in your face. Unless you are 3 feet tall and barely above the dash. When I'm in my XRunner (1 inch lower than a normal 2WD Tacoma) even lifted trucks with HID's don't "blind" me. Unless they are Jacked to Jesus and they never got them re-aimed. Then yes they shine right in my face and blind me.


Ummm I hate to break it to you, but they have Halogens that are almost as bright as HID's now. Get some PIAA 85 Watt Bulbs and see how far those suckers throw light.


Lol that's truly wonderful that you managed to do that. I too drove with crappy headlights when I couldnt' afford better ones.

But just because you can drive on 3 wheels, doesn't make it the best option.

Honestly, would you rather see 5 feet in front of you? or 30? Just because you can scrape by with crap doesn't make it a good idea....

If I had to I could make do, but I choose not too because why risk it?


Yeah it's just you because 80% of the Cars on the Road today aren't easily adjustable. Long gone are the days of the 6054 headlight with it's two screws lol.

Almost all Cars/Trucks that have Bulbs instead of Sealed Beams have very little adjustment and it's not something that Joe Blow is going to do.

So those "misaimed" lights you're seeing are setup like that from the factory.

Actually if you read all the posts the State of Illinois or one of those Midwestern States has outlawed them. Dealers are having to retrofit Halogens. So yes, the Goverment will step in.


Duh... Taking away the right to install HID's. If the Goverment makes it illegal to install them. We lose the right to use them.

It's pretty simple.