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Old 04-12-2004, 04:10 PM
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94 with no lift?

I have a 94 toyota ext cab, can I fit a swamper tsl 34x9.50r15 on a 15x8 rim or stock 15x6? with the pinch weld mod and the torsion bars cranked? I know, but this is only temporary wouldn't do any wheeling yet, just to work and back. would I need an aal for the rear? also longer shocks with an aal?
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Originally Posted by wtmtnterror
I have a 94 toyota ext cab, can I fit a swamper tsl 34x9.50r15 on a 15x8 rim or stock 15x6? with the pinch weld mod and the torsion bars cranked? I know, but this is only temporary wouldn't do any wheeling yet, just to work and back. would I need an aal for the rear? also longer shocks with an aal?
You should be able to run those on the stock rims, and with just some trimmage. I would not run a 9.50 tire on a 8" rim. It's just too much rim for the tire when you air down. You could throw on a 1" BL and do a little less trimmage. IMHO, don't crank the torsion bars. I did it on my old 4Runner and it was very much halfass and crappy in retrospect. For referance, Chris Geiger put 33x12.50's on a 93 runner with minor trimmage and a 1" bl. I would think the 34x9.50's would be even easier.
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thanks for the input, I'm not crazy about doing a body lift. I think it's too involved for the amount of lift that you gain. I'm planning a 4-5" suspension lift soon or maybe a sas, not sure yet. How difficult is a body lift on this vehicle? anyone know any tech sites on this?
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Originally Posted by wtmtnterror
thanks for the input, I'm not crazy about doing a body lift. I think it's too involved for the amount of lift that you gain. I'm planning a 4-5" suspension lift soon or maybe a sas, not sure yet. How difficult is a body lift on this vehicle? anyone know any tech sites on this?
I have installed 3 body lifts on various vehicles, and a 1" body lift is NOTHING to install. I helped a friend install a 2" on a 93 pickup and it was a little time consuming because neither of us had done it before and you modify a lot with a 2". I would say we spent a good 8 hours on it. Then I helped install a 1" on a 96 Runner(probobly the first body lift on a 3rd gen) and it was not bad. Probobly about 6 hours on that one also. I also did one on a Jeep by myself in about 4 hours. Really if you want clearance for tires a bl is an excelent option. You should be able to pick up a nice roger brown body lift in a 1" flavor for ~$75. I would HIGHLY reccomend a body lift over cranked torsion bars.
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Running 33x12.5's on an unlifted 4Runner now, no torsionbar cranking no special springs. Just a bit of trimming and hammering and for general rnning around town no problems. But get off road and there's gonna be a lot of scraping and grinding while ya flex. I suggest getting a lift, I know I need one to run with the big boys. Soon I have the spare $$.


Josh did you say $75.00 for a lift hook me up

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ok I know if I crank the t-bars up it's bad for the cvs but I'm really leaning towards a solid axel as soon as I can afford it. the deal is I have my 31's sold to a friend and want to buy new tires and wheels first, cause I know my sas will be $$$
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I am not Chris Geiger, but I do have 33x12.5's on a 15x8 wheel with only a 1" bodylift and fender trimming.

The skinnier tire should be easier.

Josh is right on with the width. Convention is if you air down in rocks, you should have 4 or more difference between tire and wheel width. There was a thread about a 12.5" tire on a 10" rim and I would not do it because I wheel in rocks at low pressure.

If all you want to do is look cool, I would forget the 34's. I think you will be disappointed with the gearing on road. BFG makes a 33x10.5 that would work on a stock rim.

If you want to save cash and are swapping "soon" I would snag some cheap, crappy 31's from someone else partially used. You save cash and end up with dead tires when it is time for the swap. Otherwise you will be selling half dead tires at a loss or running short tires with the swap.
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so a 34x9.50 is to narrow for a 8" rim? should I go with a 7"? I can live with it for awhile just want something tall for now that's why I was looking at a 15x8. I may go to a 36 or 37 once I have done the sas. so I will need the 8" wide rim to fit a tire that large. don't know if someone makes a 36x10.50 or 11.50
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7 or 6 should be good for the 9.5s
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Originally Posted by wtmtnterror
I have a 94 toyota ext cab, can I fit a swamper tsl 34x9.50r15 on a 15x8 rim or stock 15x6? with the pinch weld mod and the torsion bars cranked? I know, but this is only temporary wouldn't do any wheeling yet, just to work and back. would I need an aal for the rear? also longer shocks with an aal?
Can anyone new give insight to this?
I read so many conflicting accounts i.e. 35's with only pinch weld and fender trimming, others say 33's with 2" bl still rub.
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Originally Posted by hodgepodge79
Can anyone new give insight to this?
I read so many conflicting accounts i.e. 35's with only pinch weld and fender trimming, others say 33's with 2" bl still rub.
Hello old thread.

Tire rubbing is dependent on your rim back spacing and tire width. 35x12.50 might fit fine, a 33x15.50 would rub

TC runs this tire (34x9.50) with no rubbing, and no lift. Works well for him.
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I took the plunge and bought the tires (34x9.50-15 on stock 6" wide, 4.5" bs) hoping I they would fit with my current setup.
I have low profile bump stops and 2" lift blocks in the rear. The fronts rubbed at FULL stuff, but only just.
I removed the plastic skirt and hammered the pinch weld->no more rub!! I also have a 1" bj spacer, and I still have good clearance around the uca.
I am inclined to think the rear would rub if I didn't have the lift block. Perhaps a 1" block would still allow the tire to clear, but I don't think stock would.

The stock rims work great! I am able to confidently air down to 8-10psi and hold a solid bead, w/o too much sidewall bulge.

Hope this helps someone.
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i run the heavenly 34 9.5 on my 94 runner and they are great. i had them on there stock with rubage but it was always at slow speed offroad 9and pulling into parking lots and full crank. never a problem in my rear. the were skinny enough to stuff up in there perfectly. now i run the bj and ome 900 and the front is much better. noise every now and then but not bad at all. i love this setup.

as far as 8 inch rims and airing down. in my opinion unless your locked and crawing crazy there is no reason to airdown. especially with a 9.5 tsl. there is like 6 sq inches of contact patch when rolling and thats what makes this tire rock. if you aired it down i don;t feel that it would do much for you. a 16.5" wide tire aired to 1/2 a bar will get you allot more grip. 9.5 tsl will ride similar everywhere as i have found. no beadlocks for me though. i run mine at 40psi day and night.

over everything else these tires grab crazy. put these on the back of a 4x2 and youll cruise places you shouldn't

imho
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im now runnin 36.5x14 on a 15x7 rim with 2 inch torsion bars and shackles so pretty much not any real lift
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I would NOT do the torsion bar cranking, my truck is like that now and is h*ll to drive, rough as if it had NO spring. I'm am looking for a ball joint spacer now to remedy it.
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This thread just won't die...
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Originally Posted by ovrrdrive
This thread just won't die...
damnit, i always search around while looking at new post. to much multi tasking. i constantly post to things 2 years ago. SRY EVRY1
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uh, check the top... this sucker's half a decade old already... I wonder what the original thread poster decided to do with his tires...
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Originally Posted by AxleIke
TC runs this tire (34x9.50) with no rubbing, and no lift. Works well for him.
Not exactly ... it rubbed quite significantly even after fender beating and some trimming. That said, they were mounted on 15x8 wheels with 4 or 4-1/8" backspacing, and I think that was most of the problem.
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