92 pickup, 22re, 4 cyl. rattle/tapping noise
#21
Toyota PT#002721LLAC01 is the coolant you want. It will have that number on the bottle.
I believe the stock 2wd truck capacity is a little over two gallons. Most people just add one gallon of the Red and then add one gallon of Distilled water.
The exact coolant capacity should be in your owners manual. Since there's already some water in there be sure to add the coolant first.
Since the subject of timing chain guide wear and oil thickness was brought up I'm surprised oil filter type wasn't included. I'd say 99% of the long time 22r/re owners on this site seem to agree that the oil filter you want to be running on these engines is one of three Toyota filters.
Apparently the Anti-Drainback valve design on some aftermarket filters doesn't work so well on the 22r/re engines and can allow some of the oil to drain back causing the timing chain tensioner to be slack at start-up more often than it should be leading to some of that timing chain guide wear. I checked at two different dealerships and the price for all three were the same at about $4.75 each.
Although it's generally thought that most OEM filters are absolute junk the Toyota filter isn't poo'd on too much even over at the nuthouse known as http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...s.php?ubb=cfrm where they nitpick everything oil related to death.
The 90915-YZZG1 is specified for our engines but it's a really short compact design and most people don't like it for that reason.
The 90915-YZZD1 is also specified for our engines but is still a compact design. It's held in higher regard than the G1 filter because it holds a little more oil.
The 90915-YZZD3 is not listed for our engines but it will still work. Of the three Toyota filters it holds the most oil and some people prefer it because of that.
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I believe the stock 2wd truck capacity is a little over two gallons. Most people just add one gallon of the Red and then add one gallon of Distilled water.
The exact coolant capacity should be in your owners manual. Since there's already some water in there be sure to add the coolant first.
Since the subject of timing chain guide wear and oil thickness was brought up I'm surprised oil filter type wasn't included. I'd say 99% of the long time 22r/re owners on this site seem to agree that the oil filter you want to be running on these engines is one of three Toyota filters.
Apparently the Anti-Drainback valve design on some aftermarket filters doesn't work so well on the 22r/re engines and can allow some of the oil to drain back causing the timing chain tensioner to be slack at start-up more often than it should be leading to some of that timing chain guide wear. I checked at two different dealerships and the price for all three were the same at about $4.75 each.
Although it's generally thought that most OEM filters are absolute junk the Toyota filter isn't poo'd on too much even over at the nuthouse known as http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...s.php?ubb=cfrm where they nitpick everything oil related to death.
The 90915-YZZG1 is specified for our engines but it's a really short compact design and most people don't like it for that reason.
The 90915-YZZD1 is also specified for our engines but is still a compact design. It's held in higher regard than the G1 filter because it holds a little more oil.
The 90915-YZZD3 is not listed for our engines but it will still work. Of the three Toyota filters it holds the most oil and some people prefer it because of that.
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Last edited by Odin; 04-04-2015 at 01:46 PM.
#22
^ I wholeheartedly agree with you about the oil filter. I've posted this several times about the Bosch oil filter I tried. It drained back into the oil pan after sitting because of a defective or missing anti-drainback valve.
#23
All good info. Got my truck back after replacing timing chain, water pump, radiator, gaskets, etc., but plastic guides were used, green antifreeze, aftermarket filter. It is hard to control these situations. I will keep all this info in mind though. I think the (Fram) filter is something I might change right away, even though it's what I have used for years, but will wait a little bit on the antifreeze. Can't do anything about the plastic guides, but being aware of wear and tear helps.
Hope she is good to go for quite a while. (Cost for all the work was almost $1,000.)
Hope she is good to go for quite a while. (Cost for all the work was almost $1,000.)
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In the case of our Toyota's I hardly think OEM parts are of unknown quality. The plastic OEM chain guides being the exception here... NOT to be used in my eyes.
Last edited by Odin; 04-04-2015 at 07:44 PM.
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I think the reason most people bag on Fram filters is because of how many of them have been shown on the internet with uneven pleating and or gaps/holes in the filter media. The look of the thin glued end caps doesn't instill confidence compared to the metal caps of others either.
By now most people who've done research on Fram filters stay away from their bottom of the line orange can. I flat out refuse what some people refer to as the "Orange Can Of Death". There's some bad feedback on the Toughguard filter too but it's nothing compared to the orange can.
One has to keep it in mind that there's some bad feedback about everything if you look hard enough.
By now most people who've done research on Fram filters stay away from their bottom of the line orange can. I flat out refuse what some people refer to as the "Orange Can Of Death". There's some bad feedback on the Toughguard filter too but it's nothing compared to the orange can.
One has to keep it in mind that there's some bad feedback about everything if you look hard enough.
Last edited by Odin; 04-04-2015 at 07:36 PM.
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In 25 years of professional auto repair, I've probably come across a dozen oil filters that had the entire filter element loose inside the filter.
One of them WASN'T a Fram. The rest were.
I'd reuse an old filter before I installed a Fram. But that's just me, run whatever you trust.
One of them WASN'T a Fram. The rest were.
I'd reuse an old filter before I installed a Fram. But that's just me, run whatever you trust.
#29
Must say...the truck is running great now. Hope my problems are over for a very long while.
One question about the plastic guides...wouldn't metal guides wear the chain over time?
One question about the plastic guides...wouldn't metal guides wear the chain over time?
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Yeah, there's a lot of us in that club for what it's worth. I'm genuinely surprised you've never run into this. Then again, I'm up here in a part of the country that gets a temperature swing around 145° summer to winter, that could be playing a part. Maybe they just don't like having -35° oil pumped through them.
Last edited by Shady Cadence; 04-05-2015 at 09:30 PM.
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I was going to add to the oil filter stuff but I think it may be better served by starting a new thread in the General Vehicle Related Topics section.
Fram has a quick mention.
Fram has a quick mention.
Last edited by Odin; 04-06-2015 at 03:42 PM.
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