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Old 10-19-2009, 06:28 PM
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22RE runs weak after rebuild

I finally got everything hooked up on my '94 22RE and tried to start the engine. It cranked a little while, but it finally started up, and ran quite poorly. The engine would not increase its speed, no matter what I did with the throttle. It ran for about 10 seconds, then dies. What could this be?

I eye-balled the timing at 0 degrees just to start it. I also cranked the motor for about 20 seconds before I put the plugs in, in order to get some oil pressure built up. What I figure is maybe I have some of the injectors plugged in wrong, this would have put some unburned fuel in each cylinder prior to putting in the plugs, allowing it to start... but then remain unresponsive to an increase in throttle???

What do ya guys think? And if I'm right, how do I know which injector gets which plug?
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I would also lean towards fuel pressure.......Did it sit for a long time during rebuild?

Did you short the diagnostic box for the timing?
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It sat for 2 months while the motor was out, how do I check for fuel pressure?

"Did you short the diagnostic box for the timing?"

I don't even know what this means, please explain

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Did it sound like it was missin
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Well, yeah I guess. It only ran for about 10 seconds, but had a real low idle and sounded absolutely gutless. I didn't even have enough time to check the timing. It almost sounded like a mild exhaust leak, not air escaping...just kinda thump thump thump
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I had one do that a few years ago, had the back two injector plugs backwards if I recall correctly. Pull the plugs and see if they are fouled
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How can I tell the correct order for the injector plugs?

Also, when plugging everything together, the injector plug for cylinder no. 1 ended up being a different color and shape than the rest... or so that is how I hooked it up, based off other member's pictures I was able to see that the wire plug for the first injector was coming from a different location on the harness, so I switched it to that one- but it is a different color and shape from the rest of the injector plugs(it does hook up to the injector though).

Man, now that I think about it, that doesn't sound right??

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I can definately see how # 3 and 4 can get mixed up; they come out in the same spot, and look to be about the same length

# 1 and 2 should be straight forward though; they would only reach their specific injector

also, they should ALL be the same color; the light gray pictured here. UNLESS someone in the past, for whatever reason, decided to so some modifying...





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Was it the green plug?
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All of my injectors are hooked up right, but I still get nothing. I pulled one of the spark plugs and it is wet with gas.... I'm just lost! Any help is greatly appreciated
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Originally Posted by YFZsandrider
It sat for 2 months while the motor was out, how do I check for fuel pressure?

"Did you short the diagnostic box for the timing?"

I don't even know what this means, please explain
the little gray box next to the fuse box on the passenger side fender jump te1 and e1 then use a timing light on the crank mark and set it at 5 to start(stock setting) and adjust as needed.

Also check your distributor and make sure as it slides in the rotor ends up pointing to number 1 plug on the cap

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Originally Posted by YFZsandrider
It sat for 2 months while the motor was out, how do I check for fuel pressure?

"Did you short the diagnostic box for the timing?"

I don't even know what this means, please explain
Under the hood, you will find what is called the DLC (diagnostic link connector .......I think....lol)


Puts the engine in base timing (no spark control)

That is when you are supposed to set timing.

To check if you have other issues effecting the fuel pump you can run it like this for testing purposes........I've heard of people leaving them in and driving instead of fixing the problem but I wouldn't recommend it.

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Originally Posted by olharleyman
the little gray box next to the fuse box on the passenger side fender jump te1 and te then use a timing light on the crank mark and set it at 5 to start(stock setting) and adjust as needed.

Also check your distributor and make sure as it slides in the rotor ends up pointing to number 1 plug on the cap
I opened the box and tripped te1... still nothing. How exactly does that work? is it like a breaker switch, and it will kick itself off? and is there a correct position that it should be in in order to work?
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take a paper clip or a jumper wire and put one end in the te1 slot then the other end into the e1 slot and turn it over and see if it runs then set the timing like normal
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Originally Posted by YFZsandrider
I opened the box and tripped te1... still nothing. How exactly does that work? is it like a breaker switch, and it will kick itself off? and is there a correct position that it should be in in order to work?
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When I rebuilt my 22re I had a similar problem. It turned out to be the flapper inside the air flow meter was stuck open, causing it to run very rich. I would also check to make sure your spark plug wires are in the correct order.
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Originally Posted by raydouble
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Sorry, the terminals in my box are all covered in white grease, and when I went poking around in there it seemed like I "flipped" a small switch. After reading further I realized what was meant by tripping it.
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Originally Posted by jsn_stockard
Was it the green plug?
Mine is a '94 and all of the injector plugs are green, and larger than any of the ones I have seen pictured, except for plug no. 1 it is gray and small
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YFZsandrider, my truck is a '94 and my injector plugs are the same as yours (all green except #1 is smaller and gray).

When I put my 22re back together my engine exhibited similar symptoms as to what you describe in your original post. It's hard to set timing when the engine dies after 10 seconds.

In my case I had installed the distributor off by 1 tooth. It's tough to eyeball, but I would try re-installing the distributor and moving clockwise by one tooth.

Assume that if this is the case (and not some other problem) the engine should idle even if the timing is off a few degrees one way or the other. Once you get it to where it will idle and not die on you, then set your idle speed, then jump your terminals, then adjust your timing.

Good luck!


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