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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Installing a V8 completely defeats the purpose for me. The 22r is what makes the truck get 20 mpg (assuming its stock).
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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I've owned countless yota trucks from 84 to 2000. Most had the 22r or re's. I'm on my first 3vze powered vehicle (91runner) and I hate the motor. Thinking about swapping it out for an re. It is a pain to work on as previously mentioned. I even made it a 5 speed and the thing still feels gutless compared to my rte truck on 38's w/ 4.10s. IMO the 22rte is by far the way to go with a simple turbo swap. Mine had well over 260,000 miles before I had to rebuild it because of 2 spun bearings. So reliability, cheap-ness and power(well sort of) all in one package. Too bad they were only offered from 85(2wd) to early 88.

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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I have a truck that is 22R/5speed and a 4runner that is 3VZ-E/auto. And although the 22R has proven to me time and time again that its bulletproof, so has the 3VZ-E. Neither of my trucks get the best mileage, but my 4runner is definitely faster and more powerful even with the auto trans. And although you do need to change the timing belt on the 3VZ-E every hundred-thousand, if it does break, it won't hurt anything unlike the timing chain in the 22R
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 88'Black-sub
Put that heartbeat in it,, chevy powerrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! V8 swapppp

I don't cross breed.....

The ol 3vze puts out just enough power to tide me over till I can afford to shoehorn in a 1uz! It can keep ahead of traffic without a problem.

Can your 22r do this?


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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nix4x4
Agreed. But the biggest design flaw with the 3vze is the exhaust manifold design. It tends to collect major amounts of heat due to the constrictive flow of the manifolds. I've been preaching about headers on this site ever since I joined. IMO, a full exhaust modification (headers, no cat, 2.25" catback setup) does WONDERS for the 3.0
and is louder than hell too
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Ive set off car alarms before
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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Gears are important.
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jimep
I've owned countless yota trucks from 84 to 2000. Most had the 22r or re's. I'm on my first 3vze powered vehicle (91runner) and I hate the motor. Thinking about swapping it out for an re. It is a pain to work on as previously mentioned. I even made it a 5 speed and the thing still feels gutless compared to my rte truck on 38's w/ 4.10s. IMO the 22rte is by far the way to go with a simple turbo swap. Mine had well over 260,000 miles before I had to rebuild it because of 2 spun bearings. So reliability, cheap-ness and power(well sort of) all in one package. Too bad they were only offered from 85(2wd) to early 88.
I highly doubt a 22R or even a 22RE pulls harder than the 3VZ... a 22RTE, my guess is its pretty comparable throughout the RPMs. Do recall that the RTE has the same stroke and compression as the RE, which really hampers what the turbo could do for that motor.
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Ive set off car alarms before
me too lol

but its too loud :| people have asked me if i put a v8 in my toyota. then i have to tell them its a v6 with the power of a 4cyl and economy of a v10
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fork
me too lol

but its too loud :| people have asked me if i put a v8 in my toyota. then i have to tell them its a v6 with the power of a 4cyl and economy of a v10

Yeah, thats the crappy part.

I get around 16-17mpg with my normal driving habits ( I stay ahead of the pack most of the time, 3-4grand each gear) but up to 21mpg when im cruising on the hwy (100-110km/h, anyfaster and my mpg drops fast).

Im just happy its one of the quicker yotas around... I love spanking lifted trucks without gears

I don't notice my exhaust anymore, ever since I put in two alpine 10's I don't hear it much
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