22R replaced with remanufactured and can’t get it to idle
Feb 23, 2021 | 07:37 AM
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22R replaced with remanufactured and can’t get it to idle
Hey there everyone,
I should have tried this long ago but I have just gotten to a point where my hands aren’t always covered in grease and grime.
No, the engine swap is not a success. No, my hands are clean because I have given up my persistence and I am spending more time trying to find a place to sleep, eat, or shower!
There is a back story here but to spare everyone the details just know that Covid-19 caused a layoff and I would not be able to pay rent and pay my bills so I chose to move to the country and rent a room. To my great demise, the 86 Toyota 22R that was once so reliable gave up on me. It was found to have been electrolysis and the head had worn through in a small section. Weird that it would kill my truck.
Was from using water in the radiator I’m told.
I got a loan and purchased a brand new remanufactured 22R and I was excited to see that not a speck of grime would be going in my truck!
I pulled out the old engine and worked relentlessly on getting all the grime out of the engine compartment. I then spent more money on sound and thermal barrier for added comfort.
Once the engine was installed and everything was hooked up, it would not start. I reversed the insulation and made sure I didn’t bind the flywheel or anything like that. I removed the starter and it wasn’t that either. Eventually I gave up and Googled up a mechanic shop. The first one I found had five stars and I called them up. I was told to get it towed to the shop and they would get started on it. This was a little before thanksgiving 2020.
When I finally found a ride to see where my truck went to meet this mechanic, I found that there were a lot of unfinished cars on the property. I got a little nervous about that but I’m trying to be optimistic.
I got a call from them stating that I have a bad starter relay and that they can’t find a replacement. I set out to find one and then got a ride to retrieve it, used from a wrecking yard.
The mechanic called again, the new relay was dead too. Back to the beginning... and less money to work with.
I am searching the web for hours and hours until I discovered this guy on YouTube who used a Ford starter relay instead of the Toyota.
I emailed the mechanic and shared the link.
He sounded hopeful o impressed and would start on it right away.
Well he got it starting but it wasn’t going to idle for us at all. He said that his other mechanic quit and took the timing light and that he couldn’t do anything with timing. I’m getting really disappointed with this guy now. I’m not giving up though. I said that I would have to be able to drive outta there because I didn’t have the money for another tow. So we keep at it till the thing holds a awfully sick grumble, and then I see oil flinging all over the place from the oil pump pulley. Replaced it with a new one mechanic recommended the extra efficient one and I put it and the oil and a few other things (helacoil for a thread issue) on my credit card.
Then we continue on and eventually we’re back to a growling groaning engine that sounds like a dumpster full of gravel and a lawnmower engine attached!
I’m able to drive up and down the road and after quite a few adjustments can do so without it stalling out.
He writes out this long list of things that were done and I am looking at a $1000.00 bill!
I have never paid anything like this for mechanic work. And I’m really shocked because I was in there wrenching along with them and they would have never been able to do anything without me giving them the link to YouTube.
I paid the guy and shoved off. Now I’m looking at the timing and a valve adjustment but it just so happens that I’m being evicted from the room I rent because the lady that lived there and I could not get along too well. I was in mechanic mode 24-7 and she was looking for a more social type renter that would cook meals on occasion and so forth. I could barely afford the $700 rent and the expenses of the engine swap!
So before I can get the time set or valves adjustment I am loading up my stuff for storage and make a few short trips, less than a mile away and not very heavy either except that I would have to haul the old engine to storage. This I hated to do but nobody was available to help out.
Now I’m moved and I have a motel room that’s across from a shop that honors my credit card. They started out by calling me and said that my fuel cut solenoid was not getting voltage and until they did they would not be able to get it to time.
I’m all over the internet and doing my research and my only hope is to inspect my computer board for cracks in the solder. I go and get it soldered where I see tiny cracks but the problem remains, rough idle and sounding terrible.
By day three they’ve gotten nowhere and I pay another visit. This shop has at least 8 vehicles they’re working on and only one mechanic!
I said I couldn’t wait like this as the motel alone was killing my bank account and I was tired of paying $100 per night to share with the cockroaches and riffraff in the wee hours of the night outside.
So he somehow got the thing timed and it was running enough for me to drive but it wasn’t anything like I had hoped for, in fact the old engine sounded better and had more power than this.
I’m scratching my head under the hood and researching the web until my battery is dead. This cycle continues on and on and on for days until I have exhausted all my resources.
Now I have a crap heap with expired tags, no money in the bank and I haven’t been working in months since I have been tied up with this truck for soooo long!
I discovered that this plug going to the carburetor is shaped like another plug dangling from the harness and I plug it in and wow, I just found the solution! I had the wrong connection!
Ugh! I can’t believe that mechanic would overlook that! Oh well, moving on now to the vacuum lines which I know have not been done correctly. Following the diagram on the hood I do my best. Man I have a hard time with tracing the line’s and pipes! I’m struggling because I don’t know what anything is here. I’m not a mechanic and after the last year of my life I have lost my ability to pick up on things very well and I’m sooo tired. Making things worse I’m in parking lots and getting run off or hit up for money and my once semi clean truck is looking like hell and I’m starting to match it!
Eventually I get to adjust my valves and I’m trying to still get the vacuum lines right because my truck is running horribly and I’m embarrassed to be driving it. I’m constantly looking for anyone who knows about Toyota’s and getting nowhere. I’m also looking for a place to live as well. I have two dogs in my care as well and I’m losing my mind about the face mask I keep forgetting all the way up to the front door of every storefront and gas station. Gas? Oh I’m getting like 10 mpg. I’m a chain smoker now too and if I could I would be coupling my smoking with a steady stream of beer along with it because I am living in hell on earth these days. But I have to stay sober because I am driving here and there either testing my new attempt at the vacuum lines or looking for a place to stay, let dogs run, laundromat, groceries, etc, etc,.
I eventually have to get a job because I’m flat broke. No unemployment left, I’m not sure what the stimulus payment is because it didn’t get to me, and I have managed to break the three ported BVSV valve while rerouting the vacuum lines. Now I’m up a creek!
I’m working graveyard for the most money I can get driving forklift and I’m living out of my truck with two dogs. It’s miserable times for me and my dogs and just to get a shower and shave is a huge challenge. I’m at the post office and hoping I get a stimulus check when my oldest dog has jumped out and taken off across the four lane road! Luckily it’s late in the evening and there’s nobody else around. I holler to him and he slowly acknowledges me trotting slowly back across the street my way when I see a big white truck about a quarter mile away. I call my dog again,”Buddy, common let’s go!” and this truck seems to be moving faster and faster and.....$&@!
I’m in shock and I’m shaking so bad I can’t find an emergency vet on my phone, I have my dog whelping and gasping for air, blood and the whole works and he’s looking at me with his insides exposed! I find a vet er, it’s a half hour away!!!! I gun it man! This is my best friend and all I have left of my family and it’s my fault that he hasn’t had a yard and a home and hasn’t been to the park in months! I’m dying with this guy inside but I would never forgive myself for not trying! I beat this truck up and get there but it was too late. I’m covered in blood, grease and three days of warehouse dust because I haven’t had a shower and now I have discovered that my low has gotten even lower.
I apologize for the story here. Maybe I need to vent about this a little. I’m living out of this truck and have the puppy of Buddy still. He’s not such a wanderer and I am more careful now. The Toyota made it up the hills for a proper burial place for my oldest dog and for that I’m grateful. It’s the only proper thing that this truck has done for me since the engine swap.
I quit the job. Started parking at a family member’s house in the rv space and continue with the 22R struggles.
I got a refund from the second mechanic shop. I missed the bank by an hour yesterday because they closed at three pm. I’ve been here since and at ten am will get to cash it. I have plans to go to the Toyota dealership to pay my $120.00 for the BVSV valve as I am told is the reason I am having such a hard time with the truck idle. I’m hoping that this will end my nightmare and I will be able to get my life back together again. I’m not hating on Toyota, I had many years of good experience with this truck before the corona virus outbreak. I’m just frustrated with the plastic parts that are sticking out in very dangerous areas, the complexity of this carburetor, and the fact that vacuum diagrams are all showing a difference configuration for the same year and model! I have found as much conflicting information about this truck as I have found regarding this epidemic and Donald Trump combined. I’m about to puke just thinking of it.
I apologize for the drawn out story. I know nobody wants to hear this stuff because I have lost a lot of friends talking about my divorce and the death of my dad just before all this.
I’m just hoping that someone might have an idea or some light to shed on this situation.
So far, this is verified complete:
timing set- approximately because I have tried to adjust it a tad bit.
valves adjusted- professional mechanic and while hot
brand new carburetor with the air/fuel mixture screw exposed
red coolant
breaking in oil already ran through
Running 10/30 Mobil now
thermostat is 190’ as recommended but I don’t like it. Planning to replace it with the dual cycle thermostat when I can afford it.
plugs and distributor will be changed when I get the engine to run properly.
I should have tried this long ago but I have just gotten to a point where my hands aren’t always covered in grease and grime.
No, the engine swap is not a success. No, my hands are clean because I have given up my persistence and I am spending more time trying to find a place to sleep, eat, or shower!
There is a back story here but to spare everyone the details just know that Covid-19 caused a layoff and I would not be able to pay rent and pay my bills so I chose to move to the country and rent a room. To my great demise, the 86 Toyota 22R that was once so reliable gave up on me. It was found to have been electrolysis and the head had worn through in a small section. Weird that it would kill my truck.
Was from using water in the radiator I’m told.
I got a loan and purchased a brand new remanufactured 22R and I was excited to see that not a speck of grime would be going in my truck!
I pulled out the old engine and worked relentlessly on getting all the grime out of the engine compartment. I then spent more money on sound and thermal barrier for added comfort.
Once the engine was installed and everything was hooked up, it would not start. I reversed the insulation and made sure I didn’t bind the flywheel or anything like that. I removed the starter and it wasn’t that either. Eventually I gave up and Googled up a mechanic shop. The first one I found had five stars and I called them up. I was told to get it towed to the shop and they would get started on it. This was a little before thanksgiving 2020.
When I finally found a ride to see where my truck went to meet this mechanic, I found that there were a lot of unfinished cars on the property. I got a little nervous about that but I’m trying to be optimistic.
I got a call from them stating that I have a bad starter relay and that they can’t find a replacement. I set out to find one and then got a ride to retrieve it, used from a wrecking yard.
The mechanic called again, the new relay was dead too. Back to the beginning... and less money to work with.
I am searching the web for hours and hours until I discovered this guy on YouTube who used a Ford starter relay instead of the Toyota.
I emailed the mechanic and shared the link.
He sounded hopeful o impressed and would start on it right away.
Well he got it starting but it wasn’t going to idle for us at all. He said that his other mechanic quit and took the timing light and that he couldn’t do anything with timing. I’m getting really disappointed with this guy now. I’m not giving up though. I said that I would have to be able to drive outta there because I didn’t have the money for another tow. So we keep at it till the thing holds a awfully sick grumble, and then I see oil flinging all over the place from the oil pump pulley. Replaced it with a new one mechanic recommended the extra efficient one and I put it and the oil and a few other things (helacoil for a thread issue) on my credit card.
Then we continue on and eventually we’re back to a growling groaning engine that sounds like a dumpster full of gravel and a lawnmower engine attached!
I’m able to drive up and down the road and after quite a few adjustments can do so without it stalling out.
He writes out this long list of things that were done and I am looking at a $1000.00 bill!
I have never paid anything like this for mechanic work. And I’m really shocked because I was in there wrenching along with them and they would have never been able to do anything without me giving them the link to YouTube.
I paid the guy and shoved off. Now I’m looking at the timing and a valve adjustment but it just so happens that I’m being evicted from the room I rent because the lady that lived there and I could not get along too well. I was in mechanic mode 24-7 and she was looking for a more social type renter that would cook meals on occasion and so forth. I could barely afford the $700 rent and the expenses of the engine swap!
So before I can get the time set or valves adjustment I am loading up my stuff for storage and make a few short trips, less than a mile away and not very heavy either except that I would have to haul the old engine to storage. This I hated to do but nobody was available to help out.
Now I’m moved and I have a motel room that’s across from a shop that honors my credit card. They started out by calling me and said that my fuel cut solenoid was not getting voltage and until they did they would not be able to get it to time.
I’m all over the internet and doing my research and my only hope is to inspect my computer board for cracks in the solder. I go and get it soldered where I see tiny cracks but the problem remains, rough idle and sounding terrible.
By day three they’ve gotten nowhere and I pay another visit. This shop has at least 8 vehicles they’re working on and only one mechanic!
I said I couldn’t wait like this as the motel alone was killing my bank account and I was tired of paying $100 per night to share with the cockroaches and riffraff in the wee hours of the night outside.
So he somehow got the thing timed and it was running enough for me to drive but it wasn’t anything like I had hoped for, in fact the old engine sounded better and had more power than this.
I’m scratching my head under the hood and researching the web until my battery is dead. This cycle continues on and on and on for days until I have exhausted all my resources.
Now I have a crap heap with expired tags, no money in the bank and I haven’t been working in months since I have been tied up with this truck for soooo long!
I discovered that this plug going to the carburetor is shaped like another plug dangling from the harness and I plug it in and wow, I just found the solution! I had the wrong connection!
Ugh! I can’t believe that mechanic would overlook that! Oh well, moving on now to the vacuum lines which I know have not been done correctly. Following the diagram on the hood I do my best. Man I have a hard time with tracing the line’s and pipes! I’m struggling because I don’t know what anything is here. I’m not a mechanic and after the last year of my life I have lost my ability to pick up on things very well and I’m sooo tired. Making things worse I’m in parking lots and getting run off or hit up for money and my once semi clean truck is looking like hell and I’m starting to match it!
Eventually I get to adjust my valves and I’m trying to still get the vacuum lines right because my truck is running horribly and I’m embarrassed to be driving it. I’m constantly looking for anyone who knows about Toyota’s and getting nowhere. I’m also looking for a place to live as well. I have two dogs in my care as well and I’m losing my mind about the face mask I keep forgetting all the way up to the front door of every storefront and gas station. Gas? Oh I’m getting like 10 mpg. I’m a chain smoker now too and if I could I would be coupling my smoking with a steady stream of beer along with it because I am living in hell on earth these days. But I have to stay sober because I am driving here and there either testing my new attempt at the vacuum lines or looking for a place to stay, let dogs run, laundromat, groceries, etc, etc,.
I eventually have to get a job because I’m flat broke. No unemployment left, I’m not sure what the stimulus payment is because it didn’t get to me, and I have managed to break the three ported BVSV valve while rerouting the vacuum lines. Now I’m up a creek!
I’m working graveyard for the most money I can get driving forklift and I’m living out of my truck with two dogs. It’s miserable times for me and my dogs and just to get a shower and shave is a huge challenge. I’m at the post office and hoping I get a stimulus check when my oldest dog has jumped out and taken off across the four lane road! Luckily it’s late in the evening and there’s nobody else around. I holler to him and he slowly acknowledges me trotting slowly back across the street my way when I see a big white truck about a quarter mile away. I call my dog again,”Buddy, common let’s go!” and this truck seems to be moving faster and faster and.....$&@!
I’m in shock and I’m shaking so bad I can’t find an emergency vet on my phone, I have my dog whelping and gasping for air, blood and the whole works and he’s looking at me with his insides exposed! I find a vet er, it’s a half hour away!!!! I gun it man! This is my best friend and all I have left of my family and it’s my fault that he hasn’t had a yard and a home and hasn’t been to the park in months! I’m dying with this guy inside but I would never forgive myself for not trying! I beat this truck up and get there but it was too late. I’m covered in blood, grease and three days of warehouse dust because I haven’t had a shower and now I have discovered that my low has gotten even lower.
I apologize for the story here. Maybe I need to vent about this a little. I’m living out of this truck and have the puppy of Buddy still. He’s not such a wanderer and I am more careful now. The Toyota made it up the hills for a proper burial place for my oldest dog and for that I’m grateful. It’s the only proper thing that this truck has done for me since the engine swap.
I quit the job. Started parking at a family member’s house in the rv space and continue with the 22R struggles.
I got a refund from the second mechanic shop. I missed the bank by an hour yesterday because they closed at three pm. I’ve been here since and at ten am will get to cash it. I have plans to go to the Toyota dealership to pay my $120.00 for the BVSV valve as I am told is the reason I am having such a hard time with the truck idle. I’m hoping that this will end my nightmare and I will be able to get my life back together again. I’m not hating on Toyota, I had many years of good experience with this truck before the corona virus outbreak. I’m just frustrated with the plastic parts that are sticking out in very dangerous areas, the complexity of this carburetor, and the fact that vacuum diagrams are all showing a difference configuration for the same year and model! I have found as much conflicting information about this truck as I have found regarding this epidemic and Donald Trump combined. I’m about to puke just thinking of it.
I apologize for the drawn out story. I know nobody wants to hear this stuff because I have lost a lot of friends talking about my divorce and the death of my dad just before all this.
I’m just hoping that someone might have an idea or some light to shed on this situation.
So far, this is verified complete:
timing set- approximately because I have tried to adjust it a tad bit.
valves adjusted- professional mechanic and while hot
brand new carburetor with the air/fuel mixture screw exposed
red coolant
breaking in oil already ran through
Running 10/30 Mobil now
thermostat is 190’ as recommended but I don’t like it. Planning to replace it with the dual cycle thermostat when I can afford it.
plugs and distributor will be changed when I get the engine to run properly.
Feb 7, 2022 | 09:08 PM
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I see you got no reply.
On any forums i cant get too involved, i break rules so i skim often. But saw the lentgh, caught you pouring your heart out. Dogs, uh, i cant imaging losing... Anyways, i run a space on Quora, its not just about the title, its all inclusive, basically i refer to it as your space to write ot ask anything. Nothings off limits, no topic restrictions. Anything. You wanna rant,cthats where i read it all, reply in kind. I have wonderful people there too. Do t fet lots of traffic for the obvious reasons youll see, but id love to have you join.
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Im Daryl, the founder of my lil slice of contribution. You ever want to rant, rant away youll get a reply. Though my 22r is a time occupier. i i havent bren on as much as usual. Ill be again soon.
antisuicidedvocates.quora.com
Im Daryl, the founder of my lil slice of contribution. You ever want to rant, rant away youll get a reply. Though my 22r is a time occupier. i i havent bren on as much as usual. Ill be again soon.
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