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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Question 1st Oil Change.

I've got the 3.0L V6 in my '92 and I'm changing the oil myself
for the first time, does anyone know how many quarts with filter change?
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CRafferty
I've got the 3.0L V6 in my '92 and I'm changing the oil myself
for the first time, does anyone know how many quarts with filter change?
About 5..
What weight oil are you using ?



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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Yep, 5 quarts. Make sure you prime the filter and lube the o-ring before you install.. But you should know that already

Remove the skid plate (4 12mm bolts) before you attempt the change. Makes the job 100ox easier.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Wait 5 quarts? Autozone has always been telling me 4.5.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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oi... what weight oil he runs is not a part of the equation...
jay is dead on, altho, i wonder what you mean, jay, by priming the oil filter???
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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I learned it from my buddy (mechanic). Take the filter and fill it 1/2way with fresh oil. Tilt the filter about 45degrees (or untill the oil ALMOST comes out the top) and slowley rotate it. This will let the paper absorb the oil as to prevent dry starting. Rotate and repeat till the paper will absorb no more oil.

Fill it 1/2 with oil, lube the o-ring and install.

FSM states the following oil amounts:

22r and 22re

w/o filter change - 4.0 quarts
w filter change - 4.5 quarts

3vze (2wd)

w/o filter change - 4.2 quarts
w filter change 4.4 quarts

3vze (4wd)

w/o filter change - 4.5 quarts
w filter change - 4.8 quarts

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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good tip.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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jay how would that work with a 22r/re? the filter is sideways so the oil would prolly leak out. i always just lube the ring and screw it on.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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I do the same thing on my girlfriends 22re 4runner. But when it comes time to fill the filter up for the last time, I only put about 1/4 in.

If you let the paper soak up all the oil, the filter will already be loaded with oil. So you don't need to fill it all the way up when you install it. Just put enough that it won't spill out when you tilt it to the angle it needs to be installed at.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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the purpose of the priming is to get the filter media wet so it's less likely to blow apart when oil pressure hits it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.

also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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and I always get a kick out of those oil capacity charts...
4 qt without filter change, 4.5 qt with? you're telling me the filter holds 1/2 qt? ...maybe if the filter was mounted vertically, not horizontally.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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A good filter will keep all that oil in there.. I know because I have had it splash all over my damn face!

I just shove 5 quarts in when I change the oil.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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thanks jay... never done that before on ANY of my vehicles...
i think ill start doing that now...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay351
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Remove the skid plate (4 12mm bolts) before you attempt the change. Makes the job 100ox easier.
No need at all to remove the skid.
Filter easily comes out without removing the skid.



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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by space-junk
oi... what weight oil he runs is not a part of the equation...
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What weight certainly has no bearing on the amount of oil, but it does have a bearing on the engine life, etc.
There's a lot of mis-information regarding oil weight and how oil works (lubricates an engine) etc. on this site.



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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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fred, im not trying to be rude, but there are a couple threads dedicated to that very subject, and no conclusive answers...
dont preach, just point him in the diirection of said threads and let him decide...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
No need at all to remove the skid.
Filter easily comes out without removing the skid.



Fred

I find the skid plate just gives you a ton more room to work with. And since it only takes 2 mins to remove, why not

But if you can do it without removing it, go for it...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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yep yep yep... lots of opinions about oils.

Go with the manufacturer's recommended weight, or at least consult the API recommendations for temperature and operating conditions and you should be fine. Even 20w50 is rated for use down to 0F and would be preferred for a high-mileage engine with significant wear in the bearings over a brand new build with tight tolerances where 0w15 or 5w15 may be better.

The biggest problems with oil comes from not changing it and the filter when necessary and not choosing the most appropriate viscosity for your driving habits and the condition of your engine. If you have few cold starts and drive long distances, you can go longer between oil changes. If you have many cold starts and short trips, oil changes should occur more often.

Nearly everyone who professes to be an expert on oil is self taught and biased in their own opinion. Just because Ferrari spec's "this" weight and BMW spec's "that" change interval does not make it the 'truth to end all truths' for every car or truck whether a Cummins diesel in a Dodge truck or the 22re or 3VZE in our trucks.

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
the purpose of the priming is to get the filter media wet so it's less likely to blow apart when oil pressure hits it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.

also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
The filter paper will blow apart???

I've never seen or heard of it in my years of talking to techs at Toyota and working on them myself.

Aftermarket filters maybe, but never seen a toyota filter fail like that.
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