1st Oil Change.
12-27-2008, 12:12 PM
#1
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
1st Oil Change.
I've got the 3.0L V6 in my '92 and I'm changing the oil myself
for the first time, does anyone know how many quarts with filter change?
for the first time, does anyone know how many quarts with filter change?
12-27-2008, 12:17 PM
#2
Registered User
12-27-2008, 12:20 PM
#3
Contributing Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
5 Posts
Yep, 5 quarts. Make sure you prime the filter and lube the o-ring before you install.. But you should know that already 
Remove the skid plate (4 12mm bolts) before you attempt the change. Makes the job 100ox easier.
Remove the skid plate (4 12mm bolts) before you attempt the change. Makes the job 100ox easier.
12-27-2008, 01:05 PM
#6
Contributing Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
5 Posts
I learned it from my buddy (mechanic). Take the filter and fill it 1/2way with fresh oil. Tilt the filter about 45degrees (or untill the oil ALMOST comes out the top) and slowley rotate it. This will let the paper absorb the oil as to prevent dry starting. Rotate and repeat till the paper will absorb no more oil.
Fill it 1/2 with oil, lube the o-ring and install.
FSM states the following oil amounts:
22r and 22re
w/o filter change - 4.0 quarts
w filter change - 4.5 quarts
3vze (2wd)
w/o filter change - 4.2 quarts
w filter change 4.4 quarts
3vze (4wd)
w/o filter change - 4.5 quarts
w filter change - 4.8 quarts
Fill it 1/2 with oil, lube the o-ring and install.
FSM states the following oil amounts:
22r and 22re
w/o filter change - 4.0 quarts
w filter change - 4.5 quarts
3vze (2wd)
w/o filter change - 4.2 quarts
w filter change 4.4 quarts
3vze (4wd)
w/o filter change - 4.5 quarts
w filter change - 4.8 quarts
Last edited by Jay351; 12-27-2008 at 01:10 PM.
Trending Topics
12-27-2008, 01:16 PM
#9
Contributing Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
5 Posts
I do the same thing on my girlfriends 22re 4runner. But when it comes time to fill the filter up for the last time, I only put about 1/4 in.
If you let the paper soak up all the oil, the filter will already be loaded with oil. So you don't need to fill it all the way up when you install it. Just put enough that it won't spill out when you tilt it to the angle it needs to be installed at.
If you let the paper soak up all the oil, the filter will already be loaded with oil. So you don't need to fill it all the way up when you install it. Just put enough that it won't spill out when you tilt it to the angle it needs to be installed at.
12-27-2008, 01:17 PM
#10
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
the purpose of the priming is to get the filter media wet so it's less likely to blow apart when oil pressure hits it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.
also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.
also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
12-27-2008, 01:20 PM
#11
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
and I always get a kick out of those oil capacity charts...
4 qt without filter change, 4.5 qt with? you're telling me the filter holds 1/2 qt? ...maybe if the filter was mounted vertically, not horizontally.
4 qt without filter change, 4.5 qt with? you're telling me the filter holds 1/2 qt? ...maybe if the filter was mounted vertically, not horizontally.
12-27-2008, 01:26 PM
#12
Contributing Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 9,055
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
5 Posts
A good filter will keep all that oil in there.. I know because I have had it splash all over my damn face!
I just shove 5 quarts in when I change the oil.
I just shove 5 quarts in when I change the oil.
12-27-2008, 02:06 PM
#14
Registered User
12-27-2008, 02:09 PM
#15
Registered User
What weight certainly has no bearing on the amount of oil, but it does have a bearing on the engine life, etc.
There's a lot of mis-information regarding oil weight and how oil works (lubricates an engine) etc. on this site.
Fred
12-27-2008, 03:44 PM
#19
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
yep yep yep... lots of opinions about oils.
Go with the manufacturer's recommended weight, or at least consult the API recommendations for temperature and operating conditions and you should be fine. Even 20w50 is rated for use down to 0F and would be preferred for a high-mileage engine with significant wear in the bearings over a brand new build with tight tolerances where 0w15 or 5w15 may be better.
The biggest problems with oil comes from not changing it and the filter when necessary and not choosing the most appropriate viscosity for your driving habits and the condition of your engine. If you have few cold starts and drive long distances, you can go longer between oil changes. If you have many cold starts and short trips, oil changes should occur more often.
Nearly everyone who professes to be an expert on oil is self taught and biased in their own opinion. Just because Ferrari spec's "this" weight and BMW spec's "that" change interval does not make it the 'truth to end all truths' for every car or truck whether a Cummins diesel in a Dodge truck or the 22re or 3VZE in our trucks.
Go with the manufacturer's recommended weight, or at least consult the API recommendations for temperature and operating conditions and you should be fine. Even 20w50 is rated for use down to 0F and would be preferred for a high-mileage engine with significant wear in the bearings over a brand new build with tight tolerances where 0w15 or 5w15 may be better.
The biggest problems with oil comes from not changing it and the filter when necessary and not choosing the most appropriate viscosity for your driving habits and the condition of your engine. If you have few cold starts and drive long distances, you can go longer between oil changes. If you have many cold starts and short trips, oil changes should occur more often.
Nearly everyone who professes to be an expert on oil is self taught and biased in their own opinion. Just because Ferrari spec's "this" weight and BMW spec's "that" change interval does not make it the 'truth to end all truths' for every car or truck whether a Cummins diesel in a Dodge truck or the 22re or 3VZE in our trucks.
Last edited by abecedarian; 12-27-2008 at 03:46 PM.
12-27-2008, 03:51 PM
#20
Registered User
the purpose of the priming is to get the filter media wet so it's less likely to blow apart when oil pressure hits it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.
also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
with the 22r/re it's the same thing, just don't fill as much- enough to get the media wet.
also, don't forget to smear some oil around the o-ring on the filter so it doesn't bind and kink when you tighten it.
I've never seen or heard of it in my years of talking to techs at Toyota and working on them myself.
Aftermarket filters maybe, but never seen a toyota filter fail like that.
