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Hello,
I'm new to the forum, hopefully posting in the right place. I just bought a 1990 pickup with a rusty windshield frame. I plan to remove the windshield and repair the rust. Pieces are missing from my current windshield trim. I would like to go with a rubber gasket rather than gluing the windshield in. Is there a way to do this? If so what is the part number for the gasket and will my glue in windshield work?
I tried researching this and couldn't come up with any definitive information. Thanks for any help.
Hello Snake, can't answer specifically, but does it have a rubber gasket now? About parts...quite a few are not available anymore on the factory dealers' list. but, I did get a "new in the bag' rear window gasket for my '89 pickup from a dealer .Recently I got a genuine factory speedo cable from an aftermarket source: YotaShop.com Do a search through previous post here, and you can find many sources for factory parts and aftermarket parts.
Google it, you'll most likely find the same Toyota part number I did for a windshield gasket, 56121-89121.
What I can't tell you is if the windshield you source locally (most likely glue-in) is a different dimension than a windshield meant to be used with a gasket. Maybe the auto glass shop can tell you if they have options when ordering.
I'm thinking of doing the same to my 88 and found a few posts and videos where they had to remove 1/2" from the bottom of the glass and 3/8" from each side to get it to fit with the available glue in windshields available in the U.S. This was for 84-88 trucks so I don't know if it's the same on your 1990. There were a couple people that "claim" the glass fit when they did it but other's claimed "bull ˟˟˟˟˟" and posted pics of the glass positioned in the frame to prove it can't fit without trimming.
The gaskets come from Japan for OEM Toyota or Thailand. Lots of eBay sellers. I have a different part number than what Jim posted as it is for the 84-88 trucks.
Also appears to be best to do this with the dash out of the way and you have to trim the sheet metal lip from the top dash piece where the defroster vents are.
It was difficult to find much on this subject and keep in mind that what I found was for the 84-88 so not sure if it is the same for your 90. Lots of posts on the H.A.M.B forum about guys grinding windshields to fit in chopped top hot rods. Looks easier than I thought except for the time it takes to do it. They marked the glass with a sharpie, used tape as a guide and ground it (in-line, not across the edge) with belt sanders or angle grinders with carbide sand paper. Respirator a must. Some used water to keep it cool, others did not.
Someone posted that Toyota windshields are glued in only in North America. Supposedly because of safety standards as gluing them in makes them part of the structure of the cab and provides more strength than a gasketed window that could pop out in a crash. IDK if true, just passing on what I read somewhere.
Search this forum for the posts on the 84-88 trucks. It's where I saw most of them. I hope this helps.
I just like to be able to do my own work and I like the look of the gasket better than the large gap left around the glued in windshield. Debris gets collected behind the trim over time and often rusts out the frame, even here in dry AZ. I completely stripped my cab and the window frame had some pretty bad areas of pitting. None of it rusted through fortunately. I used epoxy to fill the few pits I had.
The trim is crazy expensive. I have several straight sets but the rubber edges are dried out and turned to dust. The installers often just stick it down with the urethane. My current build has no glass installed yet and I will most likely try doing this when I get to the glass install. It's a crawler and not an original "restoration" so not too concerned with being original.
Sorry to hijack, I hope the OP comes back and lets us know what he/she decides to do. Especially interested in the rubber gasket and glass fit with the 3rd gen trucks.
I just like to be able to do my own work and I like the look of the gasket better than the large gap left around the glued in windshield. Debris gets collected behind the trim over time and often rusts out the frame, even here in dry AZ. I completely stripped my cab and the window frame had some pretty bad areas of pitting. None of it rusted through fortunately. I used epoxy to fill the few pits I had.
The trim is crazy expensive. I have several straight sets but the rubber edges are dried out and turned to dust. The installers often just stick it down with the urethane. My current build has no glass installed yet and I will most likely try doing this when I get to the glass install. It's a crawler and not an original "restoration" so not too concerned with being original.
i'm on the same page with doing my own work, the trim being expensive, doesnt look good, and traps dirt.
I called a glass company today and was told they can get a gasket window with a $150 freight charge (im in Alaska). The guy on the phone didnt sound confident and i didnt ask for part #'s.
I have been researching and found some part numbers. sounds like the pinch welds may be different from gasket to glue in type windshields but no confirmation on this. here is the list in an old forum that i found-
FW623 - gasket type, '89-91 trucks FW598 - glue-in type, '89-'95 trucks FW471 - glue-in type, '84-'88 trucks FW397 - gasket type, '79-'83 trucks
just typing "fw623 windshield" brings a few different forums up that i hadnt seen earlier.
I think I will call tomorrow again and see what it takes to get a fw623 windshield. The traction "sand" used on the road here takes a toll on windshields in a hurry, grinding down the edge once would be fine but would get old after the first couple windows. Worst case i see some people using a universal rubber moulding after the windshield has been glued in. Either way i will report back on what i ended up doing but i may be a few weeks out from taking on the project.