jburdan

Hello all, I just purchased a 1986 Toyota 4runner and was hoping to get some info on it. It has the 22re motor, it has a 5 spd transmission, and the shift pattern for the t-case is in a reverse "h" pattern. From all of my research on here and other forums, and looking over the truck, I think this may have originally been an automatic transmission vehicle. The shift pattern of the t-case matches the shift pattern as noted on the glove box sticker, but can't seem to find any info on it what so ever. Has anyone experienced one of these and do you know anything about it? Thanks in advance! Also it doesn't seem to be engaging in 4 low.

JasonYota

iTrader: (1)

Probably the rare RF1A transfer case with the "J" style shift pattern.

JasonYota

iTrader: (1)

What makes you think it was originally an auto trans? Auto trans models have a different straight shift pattern for the transfer case, unless the glovebox with the sticker on it was swapped out.

jburdan

not a "j" style shift pattern though... it is a backwards "h".. 2hi at the top part of the h and 4hi at the bottom part of the h (same line) and than up and to the left and back down for 4lo. this is exactly how it is described on the glove box sticker. but I can not find anything about it..

JasonYota

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Post some pics up.

jburdan

not sure, the only thing i can find on the internet is for the automatics that kind of have that style shift pattern for the tcase... but upon further research, most of the automatics had the "built in" tcase.... was just hoping someone here had some info about it, or come across something similar. i was used to the "j" shift cases as many of my friends used to have Toyotas, but when i saw the sticker and felt the actual shifting of the tcase i hit the internet to find not much useful info

jburdan

will get some pics tomorrow and post

87Slowrunner

Not to hijack...but I am assuming that this knob belongs to the rare J?

I just figured out that the blown trans in my 87 4Runner with a 22re came with a w56....which appearently was removed and replaced with a g52 and this J transfercase (i didn't know any better about the J, I thought they were all that way and this is my first old Toyota).

I'm guessing by the font on this shifter (now that I've looked at other posts) that this came from a pre-84 Hilux

Any thoughts? This will be the subject of another post....which hopefully won't get hijacked.

nothingbetter

Rare? Rf1as with their j shift pattern are in damn near every old toyota 4x4 truck sold worldwide. You can buy them for $50. They were built between 1979 and 1985. It was the only gear driven case they made for the trucks a 4r. They were put behind every almost tranny except the autos and 2 others. Hardly rare at all. Wouldn't suprise me if over 1 million were made.

do some searching and you can figure out what options your runner had by the VIN #. A toyota dealership may be able to tell you as well.

The site below can tell you lots and help you identify what you have. VVVVV
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/

You'll have to post up pics of this "backwards h" shift pattern sticker before I believe you.

87Slowrunner

I fell hook line and sinker for J shaped sarcasm!

In other news, in most parts of the country the days $50 transfer case and $100 w56 are largely over, especially at wrecking yards.

jburdan

and this is the shift pattern of the t-case (how it feels by hand) the only difference seems to be where 4h is located seems to be a neutral. if you continue down the same line all the way down, that seems to be 4h. kind of same location as 4L just on other side.

87Slowrunner

The sticker in line 3 refers to "A.T." which is Automatic Transmission.

I'm not an expert here, but I believe the autos came with a chain driven xfer case and I don't think they bolted up to the 5 speeds. I could be wrong.

JasonYota

iTrader: (1)

Yea that's the auto trans one shift pattern. They are made as one unit with the trans.
You have the RF1A transfer case with the standard "J" shift pattern.

nothingbetter

yup, auto

jburdan

and I'm saying the transfer case does not physically shift in a "j" pattern. it shifts in the pattern mentioned in the above picture. and it is behind a 5spd. like I said, I think this used to be an automatic. guess I will have to crawl under there and do some digging once we dry up a little bit!

jburdan

I live in florida in the united states.. engine code verifies as 22re (I'm guessing from that one picture posted on 4x4wire) so who knows what transmission and transfer case is in this thing...

87Slowrunner

I'm living almost a similar problem. I just dropped my trashed 5 speed which, from the factory should have been a w56. Upon inspection I discovered a G52 and a hacked up floor board to make the shifters fit.

I suggest also looking at it from the top by taking out the center console, shift boots, and looking at your shifter mounting plates....and then looking at the marlin crawler site. He's got pictures of many of the Toyota transmissions on the site.

In general for a 22re 4Runner, 4 bolts holding on the 5 speed shifter is a G series and 6 bolts is the W. G sucks and the W's are pretty strong. The transfer cases for a G & W are all basically the same but there MAY be some differences in the internal shift linkages which I am trying to sort out myself. Going through this site, I've seen various posts that state, to paraphrase, its strongly advised "to get the matching transfer case with your used transmission"

(Hijack Warning) if anyone could tell me why I can’t put the transfer case that is on my G52 onto a w56-B (which I can buy locally with a trashed transfer case) please let me know.

JasonYota

iTrader: (1)

It cannot be one from an automatic. They are made as one unit.
Post some pics if the shifter. And the backside of the transfer case. More pics the better.

jburdan

got a chance to crawl under it today and do some looking...it is a forward shift tcase, shifter is held in with 4 bolts, has 7 bolts holding the rear cover on. so I am assuming it is the normal "j" shift pattern RF1A case. Seems to maybe be having a shifting issue and can't really seem to find the correct spots for 2h, 4h and 4L. Also, doesn't seem to shift in a "j" pattern. Also no 4x4 indicator light on dash except in a position that seems to be a neutral on the case (release the clutch in gear and nothing). One more thing, are there any quick ways to tell the differences between the differ types of manual trannies? Guess I need to get another set of jackstands and put all 4 tires in the air and see what I can find out from underneath the truck and see if the front driveshaft spins... Will update when I have more time. I think maybe a twin stick kit might be in the future for this!

nothingbetter

sounds to me like your interlock pin may have been removed. Search it up and learn what you can.