I just put a new engine in and hooked everything back up and the starter isn't budging when the key is turned, so I'm thinking this may have something to do with it, but I may be wrong.

I know the starter is good b/c it worked before I took. I've got the power cable hooked to it and the other plug that goes into the wiring harness. It has to be something else along the way.

 

Hey Soccer,

First, start with the type of engine, year of the truck, etc,(84-85 something?) ....you'll get a lot more answers and far less 'RAZZING'! lol. That can't be the ignitor wire, could it guys?

More info, Soccer, k?

 

Sorry about that. 84 22r with a 20r head. It is a 4runner. Yes, it definitely looks like it could go to something, but I'm just not seeing anything that would connect to the other side. I took a million photos, but it seems that this item was covered with a bag when I took all my photos, so I can't see if it connects to anything.

 

Yeah, I know a couple guys on here that are great with a 22r, ....I'm not one of them, lol. I mean, mechanical issues, mostly the same.. but the ignition and fuel system and emissions... MUCH different than my 87 22re. Had an 83, ...never had to work on it much at all. On 84's, I THINK there's a diagnostic port of some kind over there.... but not sure. It looks like that would be the other one in that pic, that's covered with the plastic boot.

So, you're saying you can't get the starter to kick over at all? Has it, even once? When you try to turn it over, hold the key for a few seconds, then feel the solenoid of the starter... is it hot as hell? It's easy to see the wires on that plug.... are there 4? and what color are they? That might help if you have a book and can browse through the wiring diagrams in the back of the books. It looks like it's red, tan, white and something else....???

 

Doesn't even budge when I turn the key. Dead as dead can be. All the cab lighting and stuff works, but nothin getting to the starter and it's not the power from the battery b/c that is a direct line. It is the other one that connects to the starter. It looks like it heads through the wiring harness and back to the other side where that plug could be. I'll go take a look real quick and post back. Thanks for the help so far.

 

i'm not sure if this will help or not, but my 81 2wd with the 22r had a couple plugs like that, that went no where.. they are used for accessories that it didnt come with PS, AC, Etc.

 

I have ps and I don't think there are any wires that come from it. There are lots of plugs on mine that don't plug into anything else before and after I removed all the egr, but this just seems like it should plug into something.

 

No problem, Soccer...

I've been there, BOTH ... Looking for 'where does this go????' and 'why wont this thing start?'.. course, my starting issue was the plug that goes into the starter(not the starter wire from battery, ...THE CONNECTOR... Mines brown)... had fallen out.... NADA! lol

Might wanna check that as well, just to be sure. After all, you did swap in a fresh built heart, maybe it got disconnected or never was, eh?

 

If that's the power steering reservoir in the top of that pic, I'd wager that plug is the diagnostic plug for the ECU...of course you don't have a 22R-E...right?

 

Any engine grounds get missed by mistake? Starter Relay?

 

Nope, he's got a 22r with a 20r head in an 84 4Runner, Logan.

 

Hmmmmm..It could still be a diagnostic plug for wiring checks. Pretty sure nothing on that side deals with the starter. I'd say bad ground, fuse or something isn't connected...like a plug...

...wait, what was the original question?

 

I'm not too familiar with how the grounding system works, but here is what I have.

Battery neg to the engine bay wall
engine bay wall to motor mount
alternator to other motor mount

Any others that should be there?

 

Are you sure your starter 'CONNECTOR' is connected? It comes from the (chassis???) harness, and usually is ran through the intake for the 22re, ....since you're running the 22r, I'm thinking it's different routing, but it should still have a connector that runs from the harness to the (I believeeeee-)bottom/front of the starter.

Do you know what plug I'm speaking of, Soccer? Maybe need a pic? Or, if you have a manual... check it out?

 

So when you turn the key what happens? Nothing? Do you have a contact switch on the clutch pedal?

 

I'm not sure on the clutch contact switch, but there was never an issue before pulling the motor and I'm using the same starter. The connector is connected. I even pulled it and put it back on making sure it was on all the way. The colors of that wires on the plug are:

Red
Brown
White or yellow (can't really tell)
Green with a red strip.

 

If you remote start the starter, does that work?

 

You mean just connect a ground directly to the starter from the battery? Or remove the entire starter and test it? I know the starter works. I drove it for months and drove it into the garage before taking it apart. Never had an ounce of trouble with it.

Can anyone explain the necessary grounds in a vehicle? I'm an unfamiliar with they grounding system between the body, frame, engine, etc....

 

Not sure on that plug, Soccer. Just curious... do you have a manual??? I know a 22r man I can ask tomorrow.

Here's a page that I think is relevant for you... The colors are there, B, R, W, Y, LY, etc... and they're in the book if you have one. You'll probably get a quicker resolution to this by some Yotatechies that are good with the 22r wirings.... but just in case it might be helpful........



Can't shout off the entire grounding system for that motor from memory... even from my own, lol. But I can refresh if it's still needed, tomorrow.

 

I think you're also dealing with some fusible links here.... and they can be fun. Not saying that's YOUR problem... just know they can be, between ignition switch and starter relay, etc. CAREFUL simply 'grounding' out the starter... there is a method, and I have a remote starter switch, but I'd have to go out and refresh as to EXACTLY how it's hooked up. wouldn't want you to fry anything. Maybe Big Blue or someone can tell you off the top of their head. You have other transpo for tomorrow?