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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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I use two strong men, wrap a chain around the engine and a large 4x4 or some other long piece of lumber and lift. The engine is light enough to do this. Just be sure the chains ar secure, your toes are valuable.
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Sounds like it would work but there is just me and him!! LOL So I'm not sure if I can lift it. I can lift some pretty heavy stuff but not sure on this one!! How much do you think it weighs? He doesn't need to put the head on it or anything, right? It's just the block and without oil or fluids, maybe it might be kinda light. Wonder if we can rent-a-convict for a few minutes!! Nobody lives out here in the desert and people from his work are jerks. Won't help but expect you to help them kind of people. Thank you for your tip. If you or anyone thinks of any more, please let us know. We sure don't want to screw this up!!!
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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OSV ---- We checked into renting one but we have no way to get it to our house. My little Barbie Jeep is about the size of a hoist so can't haul it in it. Ask around to the guys he works with and they don't want to scratch their pretty trucks. So no way to transport one. We weren't even sure my Jeep could transport the block so we had to pay extra to have it delivered to our house. I told him to just let it fall on the ground and then when he gets the truck operational, drive over it. Like not the tires but over it like it's a rock in the road. Skypilot says two guys could life it so am wondering if hubby and I can lift it. I carried the head in from the delivery truck. It was a little heavy and I did have to stop to set it down once but I did carry it. Not sure about block until it arrives. Then I'll see if I can pick it up.

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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 01:35 PM
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two guys might work if you pulled the transmission out, because you wouldn't have to worry about lining anything up, just set the engine down on the engine mounts.

you could cut out the top body brace, in front of the radiator, which would save a couple of feet of vertical lift height, then put it back in there with bolts and metal bars... drill all the holes before hand, so that it lines up properly.

is there a tree or something that you could attach a lift block to? rafters in the garage maybe?
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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The cheap and dangerous way is to cut down 3 trees, use 10-15' sections 4"-6" diameter and sling them together with a chain at the top with a short length hanging over the engine bay. Hook a comealong to it and chain up the engine hangers, hoist it out, roll the truck back, lower it and move aside, hook up new engine, etc.

Your call financially but it sounds like you should've just slapped a head gasket on the beat block and ran it to me. Times I had to pick between food and electricity or a motor that met all FSM specs it wasn't hard to pick the necessities. You don't need 180 psi in all cylinders to run errands, just get it going. Don't get carried away.

That's the beauty of a Toyota - You can get off cheap when you need to and they'll keep on getting you from A to B. Try that with a GM and see what happens. A Toyota might be a POS when maintenance is neglected for 30 years, anything else would've irreparably died on you 15 years ago.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jbtvt
The cheap and dangerous way is to cut down 3 trees, use 10-15' sections 4"-6" diameter and sling them together with a chain at the top with a short length hanging over the engine bay. Hook a comealong to it and chain up the engine hangers, hoist it out, roll the truck back, lower it and move aside, hook up new engine, etc.

Your call financially but it sounds like you should've just slapped a head gasket on the beat block and ran it to me. Times I had to pick between food and electricity or a motor that met all FSM specs it wasn't hard to pick the necessities. You don't need 180 psi in all cylinders to run errands, just get it going. Don't get carried away.

That's the beauty of a Toyota - You can get off cheap when you need to and they'll keep on getting you from A to B. Try that with a GM and see what happens. A Toyota might be a POS when maintenance is neglected for 30 years, anything else would've irreparably died on you 15 years ago.
jbtvt: financially, we are screwed. I told hubby it would have been half the cost to have flown everyone on this thread to our house, bought 10 kegs of beer and 6 bottles of Jim Beam and 6 bottles of Jack Daniels and paid for a motel for a week!!!
Maybe sticking fireworks into the block? Dynamite? How about gun powder from ACME like they did on Roadrunner the cartoon!!! I don't know what he is going to do. I thought if he could take the wheels off it would lower it and he could reach down inside the engine campartment better. He has removed the engine mounts and learned one is broken. Still have to get a timing chain gasket (4th one!) and oil. He needs the truck to get back and forth to work. I use my Barbie Jeep for groceries and little short trips. Thank you for your help. I'm trying to visualize the 3 tree logs, chain and comealong. Sounds like everything we might have here. Not sure about comealong..........There needs to be a door on the front like where the radiator is. You like open the door like I do on the back of my Jeep. Open the door, take the engine out, put in the new engine and shut the door. I need to design automobiles.........
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by skypilot
I use two strong men, wrap a chain around the engine and a large 4x4 or some other long piece of lumber and lift. The engine is light enough to do this. Just be sure the chains ar secure, your toes are valuable.
Skypilot, how much do you think it weighs? I'm wondering if he and I can lift it?
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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GUESS WHAT?



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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:48 PM
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I know most of those pics are of the new one, but one pic looks like it is the old block. Is that right or are all those pics of the new block? Have you got the old block out yet?

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Old Jul 12, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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Can't get old one out!! I'll have to repost the pictures because they are from Facebook and I have been told some of you can't see them. These are all of the new one. I told him I think he will need to take the wheels off and that will lower it down quite a bit and possibly someone can get it out. He has jacks under it right now. He can't lift it and neither can I. Maybe drop the old one and then put the wheels back on after the new one is put it and that will raise it up. Then possibly tie a rope around the old one once the truck is running and back up and then drag it out of the way. I don't know. We are totally at a loss and no money to rent a cherry picker or even buy one. That is not an option. This sucks!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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Our new baby.....but, it doesn't install itself!!
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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You keep talking about dropping the old block out the bottom. I don't think that is possible since there is a front axle in the way. The only way I know of is to rent a cherry picker somewhere. There should be a parts house or tool/ equipment rental place where you could rent a cherry picker and a trailer to haul it to your house. I can't envision someone manually lifting that block out.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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He's ask around and nobody has one, he checked with Harbor Freight and they said since people have been buying a cherry picker, taking it home and using it and then bringing it back to get their money back, they are now charging a 30$ restocking fee so at 180$ and then to pay a restocking fee.....it's just not there. He had a 4X4 across the left and right sides of the engine area....like the part you lean on when you are on the drivers side or the passenger side and you are looking into the engine. Then he has a chain around two big bolts on the firewall side and then he is trying to lift up the front, closest to the radiator, and put it on the frame but, he can't slide them as a unit onto the front frame and down a piece of plywood onto the ground. He still has the flywheel, clutch and oil pan and some other things still attached which is making it heavy. You are right, he can't drop it because the axle is in the way. This is rediculous. I just have a bad feeling about this.......
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 04:59 AM
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There's not an auto parts store like Auto Zone or O'Reilly's that will rent or loan out a cherry picker in your area of the country? Or an equipment rental store that rents out pressure washers cement mixers, etc. that will rent out a cherry picker and a trailer to haul it on? I live in the SE and we have Sunbelt rental places all over the place and that is what they do, rent out equipment like that.
I hope you have the radiator removed from the vehicle, don't want to damage it in the process of removing the engine.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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He does have the radiator out. He says he can't get the oil pan or other things off until he gets it out. This is how it's sitting this morning. He tarped it last night and this is how it is now.............
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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inch by inch......thank goodness for ratcheting straps!!


The 4X4 is sitting on the long bolts and sides are being held steady by two ratcheting straps, one on each side.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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These were found in the oil pan...bits of plastic and grains of metal






Stuff we found in the oil pan...plastic, metal shavings, pieces of metal, etc. Didn't find the missing piece of the head gasket tho!! Hmmmm
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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That looks like parts of the timing chain guides. Did he replace the old ones when he replaced the timing chain the first time? They make metal guides that is what most people upgrade to when they replace the timing chain. It probably had plastic ones originally that have broken and fallen into the oilpan over a period of time.
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