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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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it gets in the way of the power steering pump... Plus, the arch was to drastic, it would hit the fan on the alternator.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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There are OEM 100 amp Toyota alternators that are a direct swap.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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I just finished an alternator swap myself on my 85 22RE. I used the TG alt bracket, and then mounted up a marine alternator.

Me and my buddies use this style alternator on all our rigs, and have never had to replace them. They have a GM style case, 3-wire connection, a low RPM cut in, and high amp output.

The one on my Xterra is a 170A, and this one is a little lower; somewhere around 150-160A.

The alternator dropped in perfectly with the TG bracket, wired it up, no problems. Great solution for guys who like a lot of water or mud.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 03:08 AM
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Marine alts are way expensive though.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 03:40 AM
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This alternator cost me $24.00 the new belt 8.99 and the hardware 1.32ish I brand new 60 amp is 70 bucks... Too much when you look at your alternatives..
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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I'm using a denso alt for a 2nd gen Mr2 turbo. Not a direct bolt on but close. Cost me $140 with shipping. You'd have to swap the pulley for the 22re.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 04:59 AM
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RBX- Had to do the same for the GM 12si. Pulley removal was the most painful part of the swap.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 05:05 AM
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Normally, marine alts are expensive, but I have a buddy who custom makes them, so I got it cheap.

To me, it's worth the extra $$$ not to be stranded on the trail. Even if you take a trail spare, it takes time out of your wheeling time, and everyone else you go with, to change it out...and you keep buying alts to carry with you.

Guys around here that do a lot of water and mud change out alternators all the time. I prefer to spend my time wheeling, not wrenching.

Def not a budget solution, but the stock alt does not hold up to the notorious Toyota reliability montra in my books.

I realise it's not for everyone, just throwing out what I did...

out of pocket expense...about $40
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 05:11 AM
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sandor- Good point, nobody wants to be working on their truck when there are trails to travel. To be honest, I never even thought of the marine alternator. I see videos of those guys with the snorkels and who knows what else, driving around on the bottom of a lake with only the roll bars sticking out. I assume they utilize the marine alternators there.
But, even if you don't do a whole lot of wheeling in water or mud, it is true that the stock alternator is really a huge letdown. Parents had a Mercury Tracer that had a more robust electrical system than my 4runner! Got a friend that won't let his 22re pick up see the dirt. He saw it last night and wants to do it, just so he can run his accessories without a worry.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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Your friends have a link for there marine alts?
I looked at the gm alternators also, but went Denso because of the simplicity in the swap. The reliability of an alternator is paramount in a rig, IMO. If you can't afford a new alternator try to use one that has a good track record of reliability, and easy to find at a parts store should you be out on the road without a spare.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Right! I would like to have that link too. I found out that I am going to be doing that alt swap for my friend who has the pick up, would like to use him as a test run for one of those marine alts.
Sandor- I hope that I get the same life out of this alternator. I am using this truck as my daily driver, so it will be put through it's paces. It will see some trail time but not like some of they guys that are on here.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 06:34 AM
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You can get a Delco marine alternator for about $65 on Amazon. I think that's what I'll be doing when the time comes.
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Anybody know people that run a winch off this alternator?
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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sorry guys, he doesn't have a website...small local guy.

He can't compete with that Delco marine alternator pricepoint on amazon.

No problem running winches of his alternators - they are beasts. Don't have experience with any other non-OEM alternators, so I can't compare, but compared to OEM, these are a lot better for winching.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Update:
Alternator runs great, no unusual wear on the belt or problems with the electrical system... Put close to 2500 miles on it since the swap. Don't anticipate any problems to develop in the future. Will post if something happens tho for the next person.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Fyi new best thing pnp

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-heavy-245286/

SEE POST #13
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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What!?

That is really interesting FRM_808!
I never would have guessed that a Jag alternator would have fit up like that!
I know that it did take some shimming on the Chevy alt to get the lower mount to fit up, how did it fit in there now?

Also, since the post, I have put in an om617 motor and transferred the alternator from the old 22re. Fitment is almost exactly the same, minus it is on the other side of the engine. (Toy=Driver side, Benz=Passenger side) Not a pain at all to run the cables over, but it is just one more step...

If anything ever happens to this alternator, I will look up that jag one. 120 amps sounds pretty good.
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by uijongbu87
That is really interesting FRM_808!
I never would have guessed that a Jag alternator would have fit up like that!
I know that it did take some shimming on the Chevy alt to get the lower mount to fit up, how did it fit in there now?

Also, since the post, I have put in an om617 motor and transferred the alternator from the old 22re. Fitment is almost exactly the same, minus it is on the other side of the engine. (Toy=Driver side, Benz=Passenger side) Not a pain at all to run the cables over, but it is just one more step...

If anything ever happens to this alternator, I will look up that jag one. 120 amps sounds pretty good.
RIGHT?! i just did the GM one and hating life that i could have gotten a direct bolt on PNP Jag alt. Im keeping all my old mounts for the future of swapping to a Jag alt.
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by myyota
There are OEM 100 amp Toyota alternators that are a direct swap.
Stock alternator that 4Crawler mentions in his website gets stator upgrade to higher capacity so it is plug n play. I got my alternator wet washing the engine so messed it up. I did not have time to work on it so had it replaced with similar upgrade by AES Auto Electric in San Diego for $190 installed.

Oh BTW, the Jaguar XJ3 1993-1997 alternator is almost PnP. (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51827089)
  • Slightly bigger so bracket needs a little bending.
  • Pulley also needs to be swapped with stock because Jag uses different kind of belt.

I wish I had heard of the marine alternator earlier. Would have gone that route.

Last edited by RAD4Runner; Dec 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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warpigg- I would loved to have gotten an ambulance alternator. There wasn't any in the junkyard tho..
Planned on writing this to help in making your own brackets and all that good stuff.
In the end, I might even end up giving up and getting a pre-fabbed bracket.
Looking forward to seeing how it turns out tho. I would love to not have to pay more than 30 bucks for a 30 amp increase!!
I was reading your upgrade but couldn't find what you did with the wiring in the conversion.
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