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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 05:44 AM
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Tiers? Size?

I have an 83 ish cab truck with the 22r on propane and 36's and stock everything else. I plan on new 5.71 ring and pinion with 4.7:1 t case twin stick kit. I was just wondering how big a tier I could run before it'll snap stock axel shafts. I also plan on hydro stear and cromeolly shafts as well. Thanks for the input and advice

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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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I'm running 35 12.50 ring now with zero problems. I'm tire you will not have any problems with 36s.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the input 1983yota 69. Do you dalydrive your Toyota or is it just a trail rig? If it is a teal rig how hard do you wheel it? Just cuearaus
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 03:33 AM
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I daily drive it with just light off roading at the moment
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 05:48 PM
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ok mine is just a trail rig and I wheel it kinda hard so you you think I'll be ok on 36's.

thanks again for your input
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Yea you'll be fine, how wide wheels and tires are you trying to run tho?
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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I'm running 36-14.50x15 TSL super swampers on 15x8.5 steel procomp wheels and weld on bead locks
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:01 PM
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You will want to do Longfields, RCV's or Dirty-30s shafts in your front Axles.
Stock Birfield's will eventually grenade
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 05:16 AM
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Are they cromolly shafts? Because I have been looking at some trail gear shafts for $239 for both of the front shafts
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 07:03 AM
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Hey Dakotayota480, do you already have your tires on. If so what size lift do you have and do you have clearance issue running a 14.50? Post a pic if you have one
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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1983yota69 I do have the tiers on it with stock leafs lol but it doesn't have any finders and it has a homemade frame with bed and it looks like it is going to clear ok I'm still building it so I haven't flex tested it yet but you will be the first one to know when it does. I don't have any pictures at the moment but I will get you some. But I will say that it looks a hell of a lot better with the 36's on it instead of the 31's it had on it
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 08:30 AM
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Thanks, and are you sure you want to run 5.71s over 5.29s. Or are you open to suggestions
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure that I'm going with 5.71's because everything I've read or been told on the subject is that the ring itself is not weak but the amount of teath that mesh at the same time is less than the 5.29's and that is where everybody is saying that it is weaker however if the ring is just as strong then as I see it it's not a problem. But I might be wrong and I am always open for suggestions.
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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Yea you've heard the same as me, if it was me and you were never going to run anything bigger than a 36 than I would run a 5.29 due to the 5.71 teeth being weaker. I just order my 5.29 yesterday. I'll make sure I'll tell you what I think about it. Anything is better than 3.91 which is what I have now.
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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Master Zuk's article on 5.71's strength
http://www.gearinstalls.com/410suck.htm
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 03:45 AM
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Great article dropzone
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 06:30 AM
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I run 36" IROK's and drive summer trails and snow wheel hard on the rev limiter. Still running the stock front shafts for like 8yrs now(my marlin shafts are herein the shop to be installed someday). I run an automatic with duals behind a 2RZ and 4,88's. Its just how you wheel how long things last. Without a clutch to rev up and dump.
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