Buying Engine Have ?
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Buying Engine Have ?
I have an 81 and have been having engine trouble for about the past 5000 miles. I am finally going to man up and pull the engine. My question is this. I have found a completely rebuilt short block on ebay for $275.00 + $100 shipping. Also I have found a completely rebuilt head for $250.00 + $50 shipping. Am I to understand that if I buy these and bolt them together then I will have a completely rebuilt long block? Is there more to it than that? If so then the total cost of a new engine is $675.00. The short block that I found Is from jis engines. Just type 22r short block in on ebay. Thank you.
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Yes truck is daily driver, but also daily 4x4. What im saying is Normally longblock engines run about 1000-1800. The way is see it bolting a head to a block is not worth 400+ dollars. Also it costs about 300 dollars for the master rebuild kit, plus you will probably have to hone your cylinders and do other machine work which will probably add up to 500+ depending on your machine shop. So why is it so cheap to do it this way. And why havent I heard of anybody doing it this way? Is there something Im missing? Also could someone go look at the short block on ebay and tell em what they think. I would put up a link but I dont know how to do it. Just type "22r short block" in the search window, its in the ebay stores. Thank you.
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well what is it doing? how many miles? see how much it would be for a local shop to rebuild. or u could do the ebay thing. or i would just look up a local Japanese motor importer or salvage yard.
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My current engine, her name is ol' betsy. She smokes a lil, and the carb is shot. She will start and if I give her enough gas she will idle right. But at low idle it just doesnt sound right. I would like to do it this way. Plus 675 dollars for a new engine is not that bad of a price.
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Will I be able to use the timing cover and such things from my old engine? I will buy a new timing kit. I have found one for 50.00. The enigne has a 6 month warranty, and they have been in business for 18 years so im willing to give it a try what do you guys think?
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275 is awefully cheap for a shortblock, when i rebuilt my engine i did all of the labor myself (except for the machinework) and it costed me about $500 so my guess is that is a really low quality rebuild, with who knows how little accually rebuilt on it. just my thought on it, but if they have been around a long time you could go for it.
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None on the short blocks, but check with TAP in Rancho Cordova(Sacramento). They've usually got TONS of those 22R's laying around all over the place, and they'd probably let one go for pretty cheap. Also, in the SacBee(newspaper) in the classifieds, under mechanics special, there's some company who advertises 22R's and 22-RE's for $450 for the 22R and like $550 for the RE. Just a thought to help get ol Betsy the help she needs.
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Well, I called TAP. They only have 22re engines. They told me they would give me a complete engine, with manifold, and wiring harness for 1500, out of my price range. I dont see why everyone thinks this small block is a bad idea. It is rebuilt in America. They show pictures of their shop, it looks like a real nice machine shop. And they also offer a 6 month warranty. I guess im going to be the first to get a brand new engine for under 1000. The way i figure it, i could build a longblock, buy a performance cam, header, new carb, and the dual chain timing kit. And put it all together for less than 1200. Most people pay about 1800 for an engine like that around here + machining work. Thanks
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I have a 22R that runs like a dream for a motor that needs a carb clean. Its out of an 86.. See my "Parting out 86 Pickup" post for a video of the motor and pictures.. PM with interest.. Its currently located in St. Croix Falls WI.
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This is my list of parts: 22R Short block new, 20r Head new, New carburetor, Dual timing chain kit, Header, Oil pan from junkyard, Painted valve cover, Painted timing chain cover, New plugs, wires, distributor, coil, and new hoses. I have alternator and such pumps from my old engine. I have called around done all the pricing and my total is around $875.00 for everything. Plus core charges. It really isnt that hard to bolt a head to a block and do timing. So why hasnt anybody done it this way? I dont see how a company could build a crappy short block. As long as everything is new, I dont see what could go wrong. I called the company because I had heard that toyota blocks are very hard and need a certain ring, I was talking to the guy about rings and before I could even say anytyhing, he said that toyota engines need special rings, and that they use them. So I am thinking this guy knows his stuff.
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IES (import engine specialties) www.overbore.com 22RE=$1200 professionally remanufactured long block.
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first I build a ton of 22r engines, so hearing about a 275 short block has me wondering whats up. One thing to ask is if the rods and pistons are new. Many machine shops on the 81-84 block will resize the rods and reuse the pistons sell you oversize rings to match the bored size. The cost on stock dished pistons for your truck is over $100 alone without new rings. Add on a machined crank and bearings the math doesn't add up. However the demand on the older taller blocks are going down so maybe they just want to let the stuff go to clean up their shop stranger things have happened. I've pulled out sooo maaany other cheap low end rebuilds from nation wide companies that I only install my own in house rebuilds. I think you are setting yourself up for a fall sorry
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MSR is right, you get what you pay for. No offense but alot of guys wil say they "COMPLETLEY REBUILT" their 22r or re for 5-600 bucks and i think thats a pile. It is possible but only if the head was already in great shape, and the block only needed honeing at the most. Plus you might as well cancel out any aftermarket performance in a 5-600 buck rebuilt. If i am wrong and guys ARE "completley rebuilding" engines plus adding aftermarket performance parts for 5-600, then i guess i better pack my stuff and get on the same planet as them.
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Will you guys go look at the site. it says that everything in it is new, pistons rings all of it. I called and the people that work there are Japanese?? Has me wondering if its a sweat shop. Go look at what im talking about, type "22r short block" in ebay and go to the store that it shows you.


