hi guys, i have been owning a 1994 toyota pikup for about 2 years now and use it as my DD, and very scracely as a trail truck because its IFS and doesnt flex for crap! well i recently came across this 1980 single cab toyota pickup with a 20r in it that had solid front axle and might be lifted a little already. well the guy says he wants 400 for it but the bed is rusted to hell and i dont even know if it runs...

are these engines difficult to work on? and do you think it would take much to get it running?

 

sorry if i wasnt clear earlier. what i was asking was are these engine difficult and expensive to work on and fix? also what i am hoping is that this truck was running when it was parked where it is now parked, and may not be running now ( im not sure) sooo i also have no idea where i would need to start to get this thing running. please, a little insight upon what i might be getting myself into before i actually do it would be greately appreciated

 

Change the fluids. Clean the carb. Put in a new set of ND or NGK plugs. You might have developed a vacuum leak somewhere. 20R's are forklift motors, so they're pretty indestructible.

 

sweet! thats awesome to know... but are the parts cheap just incase?

 

how long has the truck been sitting without being ran?

 

20R parts are cheap, very easy to work on, very simple motor, and reliable

just wayyy underpowered....

 

check ebay for engine parts, there is a ton of stuff and its relatively cheap.

 

how much to get it running? good question could be anyway from $5-$1500..hard to say with out seeing the truck etc etc.

check the floor boards too....they like to resemble the bed if not taken care of...

 

yeha this thing is kinda hammered in the bed area... pretty rusted away but i didnt notice the floor boards... i will get pictures soon!

 

o and im not sure how long it has been since it has been ran either. i plan on talkin to the guy sometime this week about it

 

pull the bed and put a flat bed on it for 400 it sounds good to me as long as the whole thing isnt rusted out.

 

when i go this week, ill check out the fram and make sure its not rusted out also... i think i might want to use the bed sides though... i just love the look of that little truck.

 

o and another question i ment to ask you is, can you get any power out of these supposibly indestructable engines? o and if i spelt that wron, sorry

 

you can get more power, though its still less than would be nice IMO. Opening up the exhaust has been known to give some decent bang for your buck. Search it.

 

definitely go for the truck thats a steal, running or not. im dying for a deal like that to turn up i want a 1st gen 4wd so bad

yes but my experience has been if you push that little motor too hard it will have troubles. all the parts were put together to work together and they do damn well and damn long toyota didnt have their head up their ass when they made these but when you start changing out and modding parts in the motor it pushes all the other parts harder than they were meant to be, thus causing problems. edit: its like putting a 454 big block in with an l50 and stock axles, the tranny and axles arent gonna last long. basically im saying your probly best off leaving it stock.

i wouldnt buy parts off ebay unless their garunteed or warrantied. my friend got a carb and it ended up being a total pos even farther gone than his old one. the guy was like "oh yeah it works great i just wanted a performance one but this ones in perfect shape"

...so theres my words of advice.

 

Like everyone else has said that 20r is bullet proof... it was the immediate forerunner to the 22r/22re family. If you want more power you should be able to drop in a 22r with no difficulty other than matching up the tranny maybe...

 

if your gonna do an engine swap go for a 22re its a bit more work but well worth it

 

swapping to the 22re would be a lot of work you'd need to add a bunch of sensors and the computer... really more work than it's worth IMO unless you were trying to make a DD out of her and then maybe...

 

its definatelly not going to be a dd, pretty much just a trail rig i have my pretty black 1994 toyota pickup for that

 

yes you would but my carb'd rigs cough on an upwards angle. ive never done a carb to efi conversion so i cant take too strongly to this side, efi just sounded more practical