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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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63"s and ruf

hi guys i got a stock 82 toyota and im wanting to 63''s and ruf but have a question on steering? what all needs to be done for the steering to work?
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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from what i have read so far rears up front move the axle forward 2 inches or so and u need to change the steering? so wondering what all needs to be changed over.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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from what i have read rears up front move the axle forward. and u to change the steering. what do u change the steering to? like what parts am i gunna need.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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You need to move the steering box forward so that the tie-rod and drag link do not hit at compression. Most guys take this opportunity to convert to cross-over steering with an ifs steering box.

If you haven't read the RUF Faq at pirate, read it. Lots of great info. Link below.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Ya thats what I have. Gees, is everything abbreviated these day's. Oh I'm sorry I meant GIEATD = G.ees, I.s E.verything A.bbreviated T.hese D.ay's



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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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My old 89 rears are up front. But the bottom 3 or 4 leaves, can't remember, are form a cherekee rear pack. MO89RAUFBTBOLCRAFACRP. Hey theres my abbreviation.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatGuy1295
Ya thats what I have. Gees, is everything abbreviated these day's. Oh I'm sorry I meant GIEATD = G.ees, I.s E.verything A.bbreviated T.hese D.ay's
ROFL! (Roll On Floor Laughing)

Geez, Get with the times man!
http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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don't even bother trying to use the stock push pull, convert to high steer when you do it and get the steering box pushed as far forward as possible
if this happens to you, you are screwed:
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oh and make sure that your drag link clears your tierod.
Cause you don't want this.


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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Geez, Get with the times man!
Im working on it


don't even bother trying to use the stock push pull, convert to high steer when you do it and get the steering box pushed as far forward as possible
if this happens to you, you are screwed:
Good point there, it gets overlooked a lot.

Went with the flat pitman arm. And moved the box forward
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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My 2 cents. I have done what you want to do but when I did the RUF I drilled my axle perch so that the axel sat in the stock location. I drove it like that with the stock steering for a while ( 6 months daily driven )till I had the funds to do high steering. It wasnt that bad but it was way better with the high steer.I really liked the RUF it had very good flex. The 63s I was not to pleased with they were to stiff for a pickup with no weight in the bed. They didnt flex real good. If I had to do it again I would still do the RUF but would do something else in the back.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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alright thanks for the advice guys. and does anyone make a highsteer kit?
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 82yote
alright thanks for the advice guys. and does anyone make a highsteer kit?
http://www.marlincrawler.com/steerin...teer-kit-hilux
https://www.allprooffroad.com/pickupsteering/17
http://www.trail-gear.com/high-steer-kits

Have you searched yet? This type of stuff takes a little research. Once you've done some due diligence, people will be glad to help fill in the gaps, but there's enough info out there that you should be able to answer most of your own questions with a little effort.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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how difficult is it to do the RUF lift and keep the axle in the stock location? I want to keep the axle in the stock location. I may eventually convert to high steer, but im planning to build a 4 or 5" lift with this and use a skyjacker adjustable drag link and steering stabilizer to start with. The truck is mainly a DD with the occassional offraod use; that being said, when I do go offroading I really beat it up. I go a few times a year. oh and I have a 1985 toyota pickup
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor17
how difficult is it to do the RUF lift and keep the axle in the stock location? I want to keep the axle in the stock location. I may eventually convert to high steer, but im planning to build a 4 or 5" lift with this and use a skyjacker adjustable drag link and steering stabilizer to start with. The truck is mainly a DD with the occassional offraod use; that being said, when I do go offroading I really beat it up. I go a few times a year. oh and I have a 1985 toyota pickup
Why would you want to keep it in the stock position vs. moving it forwards? You need a welder to do RUFs anyways, so you will be able to build a square front driveshaft.

If you're going to lift it 4" then you'll definitely need hi-steer.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Why would you want to keep it in the stock position vs. moving it forwards? You need a welder to do RUFs anyways, so you will be able to build a square front driveshaft.

If you're going to lift it 4" then you'll definitely need hi-steer.
I am not disagreeing that he should move the axle forward, unless there is a joy of smashing your tire into your firewall, or the fact that he should do high steer, but why does he HAVE to build a square drive line?
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor17
how difficult is it to do the RUF lift and keep the axle in the stock location? I want to keep the axle in the stock location. I may eventually convert to high steer, but im planning to build a 4 or 5" lift with this and use a skyjacker adjustable drag link and steering stabilizer to start with. The truck is mainly a DD with the occassional offraod use; that being said, when I do go offroading I really beat it up. I go a few times a year. oh and I have a 1985 toyota pickup
bad idea but heres how you do it. use the main leaf from your stock front pack and the rest of the leaves from the rear pack.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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I am not disagreeing that he should move the axle forward, unless there is a joy of smashing your tire into your firewall, or the fact that he should do high steer, but why does he HAVE to build a square drive line?
If he moves the axle forward won't he need a longer driveline?
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Logan81Pickup
If he moves the axle forward won't he need a longer driveline?
indeed but it sure doesn't need to be square
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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indeed but it sure doesn't need to be square
But what if he needs more travel?
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