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Old 03-20-2008, 10:57 PM
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you posted it in the forsale section.

Try the buyer/seller feedback section, or the off topic section.
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Originally Posted by rosetree
I was PMing toona about the whole thing, but have not heard from him since 2/25...He was going to send me pix when he put his on and didn't...
I googled sailmakers in New Brunswick and called them (3) and no one had heard of him.
This is why I'm so frustrated, I'm coming up with dead ends...
so when you talked to toona he did get his?

I have to say there is a little hope if he got his but the time frame is awful look back through his sample pics might be a plate number to run. <never mind I looked at his image shack pics and they all have been blurred out.

did you pay him through paypal if so you should have his full name and could find him in the yellow pages I would think

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Old 03-20-2008, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
you posted it in the forsale section.

Try the buyer/seller feedback section, or the off topic section.
Thanks...
Would it be bad manners to just re-post it there?
Old 03-20-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CyMoN
so when you talked to toona he did get his?

I have to say there is a little hope if he got his but the time frame is awful look back through his sample pics might be a plate number to run.
toona said he got his, but after problems too.
As I said, toona said he was going to send me pix but didn't and hasn't answered my last PMs.
Old 03-20-2008, 11:55 PM
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No bad manners at all. A fellow YT member got worked over, and we have a problem with that. Post it up!
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So did I get screwed......II

I am putting this thread in the correct forum...
Here's the initial post and the responses that were posted on the other thread...
Thanks

Did I get screwed, you tell me, and if you have an idea, please let me know!...

In November of last year, I sent money to another member of Yotatech, Topless4Runner, for a soft top that he was going to fabricate for my 87 4Runner. You can read the conversation leading up to the deal here >>>>>

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f109...ft-top-112177/

I sent him my money through paypal. Everything was going great (or so I thought). He finished another top for another Yotatech member, and mine was almost done. Then, all communications from him stopped....Dead.... I emailed him, I PMed him from the site, paypal sent him an email, Amex couldn't because the payment was past 90 days.
His last communication to me was on 12/03/07. I have tried tracing him, to no avail. I know that he is reading my PMs, and that he has been on this site as recently as 10 days ago.....
So what do I do??? Do I just eat the $600??? I can't believe that I was so trusting, but you get caught up in the whole "family" thing of people on forums, it never crossed my mind that I would be screwed....
If any of you know Jeff and are in contact with him, please let me know.

Thank you ......

(this is the other thread)....
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f109...crewed-140565/
Old 03-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
No bad manners at all. A fellow YT member got worked over, and we have a problem with that. Post it up!
Done!
Thanks....
Old 03-21-2008, 06:07 AM
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Man that sucks!! I don't know what to tell you. If your assertions are correct, there is always Judge Judy!!
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You should get a mod to change the thread title to reflect his user name and post in his thread selling these.

I wish you the best of luck in getting your money back and I would find an attorney friend to help you explore your legal options.

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I did not catch anywhere that you had his phone number. Do you have his full name and address? Post it if you do or PM me with it.

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Where does this fellow live? Maybe some locals know him
Old 03-21-2008, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtoyboy
Where does this fellow live? Maybe some locals know him
All I know is that he said he was from New Brunswick Canada.
I looked up his name through a search engine (albeit a free one) and the only result was an address that had a disconnected phone #
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Originally Posted by 98runner210
i work for a bank too. banks will look at this either way. Most banks wont be able to assist you. Usually they will only do something if it was a transaction you didn't authorize. In this case it was authorized by you, so it is going to be between you and the merchant. Why would the bank take a loss for this?

Not to be rude but just saying...
The bank doesn't have to take a loss to file a claim and attempt to recover the money. We process far more merchant dispute claims then we do fraud claims. And we have a higher success rate with merchant disputes, since it's almost always obvious when the merchant is in the wrong. In this case, the merchant would have to provide a signed delivery manifest proving the merchandise was received by the customer to avoid a chargeback.

There are federal guidelines on merchants that take orders and then run off with your money. That's as good as fraud. It's a scam like any other.

And at least the bank I work for, if we were unable to recover the funds and it was obvious the card holder was wronged, would probably still pay the claim as a courtesy.
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This is a fraud case IMO. One that crosses international borders in fact which is very serious. I would contact his local authorities and advise them of what has happened.
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im in canada but about 24 hours away from new brunswick.... or id find the s.o.b for ya
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In going over all of my correspondence with Topless4Runner, I just found his contact info buried in one of over 100 PMs!
I will be calling him tomorrow and keep everyone here posted on the outcome!
I really want a soft top for my Runner, I hope this has a good ending...
Thanks for your concern...
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its not right man he took your money....some creeps stole my amps from my truck and the cops caught them but they stashed the amps so they couldn't do anything.everyone eles whos purse was stolen got there stuff back..they wont tell me who it is?? if i do find out im gonna let them keep it after i use it to re-arrange there face.. who is raising these winners???
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Originally Posted by bigt
who is raising these winners???



I could not agree with this question more.

When I was younger I saw a kid (about 12 or 13) steal a pack of gum from the store and stash it in his pocket, his mom catches him putting a stick in his mouth on the way out of the store. She takes the pack from him not upset at all and goes to a check stand where she purchases the gum and gives it back to the kid....

I couldn't believe it, if i had pulled that as a kid I would have been flat on the floor, security guards would have been to busy pulling my parent off of me to care about the pack of gum i took.




Rosetree: Don't give up on this thing, keep fighting. I would say you have a lot of people behind you right now, just let us know if we can helpout.

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Old 03-22-2008, 06:33 AM
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Wenzel: The act of exposing and bringing to justice an internet scammer.
I am going to wenzel you. e.g. I am going to uncover who you are and where you are. Then I am going to reach out and wipe that smirk off your face, get my money back, and make sure you never are able to screw anyone else again.

Wenzel: To have the entire internet seek justice for your wrongdoing.
I totally scammed this guy for an ipod, but when I woke up today, all my accounts were banned, my computer was full of horse porn, and there is 15 thousand spoons stuck in my front lawn!

How it should always happen: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203
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Since he is in Canada, call the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) they are our national police force. It can't hurt to open a file, just be sure to give them all the information you have on him, fraud is still fraud and this shouldn't happen. If he has/had a paypal account then they should have some information on him.


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