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Apr 19, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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Nope, ran out of time. The weather got real bad and my girlfriend's brother's jeep broke down 
So I wasn't able to get a ride back there.
Also, Dudebud, I still have your tire iron. I'll be back in a couple weeks and can get it back to you then.
So I wasn't able to get a ride back there.Also, Dudebud, I still have your tire iron. I'll be back in a couple weeks and can get it back to you then.
Apr 19, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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From: Kirkland, WA
Originally Posted by Mickdady
Ok some are going to laugh but this is my reasoning for not joining any local clubs.
If I join, there will always be someone going up looking for others to go with them. I have a hard time refusing wheeling so I will always say yes. This will cost me a lot in parts because wheeling that much will eventually break something. More importantly it may cost me my marriage!!!
I am at a crossroad right now...do I make her into a serious trail rig and risk damage and added cost? or do I wait a couple years till I can afford a dedicated trail rig.
Its a viscous cycle.
If I join, there will always be someone going up looking for others to go with them. I have a hard time refusing wheeling so I will always say yes. This will cost me a lot in parts because wheeling that much will eventually break something. More importantly it may cost me my marriage!!!
I am at a crossroad right now...do I make her into a serious trail rig and risk damage and added cost? or do I wait a couple years till I can afford a dedicated trail rig.
Its a viscous cycle.
Geoff, if you still need any help when you get back, let me know. its always more fun to work on other people's cars
Apr 19, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KevyWevy
Geoff, if you still need any help when you get back, let me know. its always more fun to work on other people's cars
Apr 27, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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Nice pictures, I've wanted to try that trail for a while, but didn't have the guts to try it without someone who had done it before.
Mark- sorry to hear about the loss of employment- hadn't heard about that. Anywho, see the thread about the Tinkham climb I just started. Its beginning to be that time of year, and isn't too far of a drive......
Mark- sorry to hear about the loss of employment- hadn't heard about that. Anywho, see the thread about the Tinkham climb I just started. Its beginning to be that time of year, and isn't too far of a drive......
Apr 27, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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Please note that is looks like the "Wall Trail" has been closed. Please stay out of there until we can find out all the details.
Read more here; http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showth...threadid=21053
Read more here; http://www.snort4x4.com/forum/showth...threadid=21053
Apr 27, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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This past Saturday, it was signed as closed by the state parks system. It seems that the last 1000 feet or so, including the view spot on top of the wall is within Wallace Falls State Park and the wall is a designated rock climbing area. Apparently, someone has been wheeling in and throwing garbage off the top, resulting in injuries or near injuries to the climbers below, so the parks system stepped in to close access.
Crash from SNORT is following up with parks and will be posting more info, but for now, that is the summary.
Crash from SNORT is following up with parks and will be posting more info, but for now, that is the summary.
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Apr 28, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Here's the latest post from Crash who is acting as the contact on this issue...
Ok guys, here is the response I got.
I have his cell # now so I will be calling him to verify a few things but this pretty much sums it up...
Hi Mike- we met on last Saturday up near the top of the Town Wall. I was
the park ranger putting up signs. Could you please mention at the cleanup
something about throwing things off of the town wall? I suspect that the
people at the clean up are not the people doing it, it's the folks who dump
stuff, shoot everything and cut trees down, but it wouldn't hurt to get the
word out.
Technically unless it is an ORV area, ORV's are not allowed in State Parks
so that's why I've posted that last 500' of the town wall road as closed to
ORV's. I've been here almost 6 years and have not done that yet, but now
because of the garbage being thrown over, trees being cut down and other
damage I felt I must. So I will be enforcing that and I will ticket folks I
find have driven onto State Park Property. I don't want to be doing that,
but I can't allow climbers to be endangered and park trees to be cut down,
etc. Please pass this onto folks and the real danger of throwing things
(even bottles and cans) off of the Town Wall. If someone below gets hit by
something, someone tossed over the side not only is the "tosser" subject to
citations but could also be held personally liable.
As to your efforts about getting the area officially designated as an ORV
area, I think if you could organize some sort of advisory committee just for
the area and create some sort of "self-policing" structures it might help
your cause a lot. Some land areas have groups that go around spreading the
word about regulations, posting signs and having "patrols" to advise users
or when necessary call law enforcement. Getting basic rules and regulations
across would be a lot easier if they came from you guys rather than down
from the DNR. I know it would take a lot of effort but I think ultimately
that's what it will take. There are sooo many violations of regulations and
laws going on in that area right now that I think only that sort of
intensive volunteer effort is going to safeguard ORV use there. I am really
surprised there hasn't been a lawsuit to close the area so far. Anyway-
just my thoughts. Thank you for your efforts at cleaning up the area and
please pass my thanks on to the rest of the Association.
I have his cell # now so I will be calling him to verify a few things but this pretty much sums it up...
Hi Mike- we met on last Saturday up near the top of the Town Wall. I was
the park ranger putting up signs. Could you please mention at the cleanup
something about throwing things off of the town wall? I suspect that the
people at the clean up are not the people doing it, it's the folks who dump
stuff, shoot everything and cut trees down, but it wouldn't hurt to get the
word out.
Technically unless it is an ORV area, ORV's are not allowed in State Parks
so that's why I've posted that last 500' of the town wall road as closed to
ORV's. I've been here almost 6 years and have not done that yet, but now
because of the garbage being thrown over, trees being cut down and other
damage I felt I must. So I will be enforcing that and I will ticket folks I
find have driven onto State Park Property. I don't want to be doing that,
but I can't allow climbers to be endangered and park trees to be cut down,
etc. Please pass this onto folks and the real danger of throwing things
(even bottles and cans) off of the Town Wall. If someone below gets hit by
something, someone tossed over the side not only is the "tosser" subject to
citations but could also be held personally liable.
As to your efforts about getting the area officially designated as an ORV
area, I think if you could organize some sort of advisory committee just for
the area and create some sort of "self-policing" structures it might help
your cause a lot. Some land areas have groups that go around spreading the
word about regulations, posting signs and having "patrols" to advise users
or when necessary call law enforcement. Getting basic rules and regulations
across would be a lot easier if they came from you guys rather than down
from the DNR. I know it would take a lot of effort but I think ultimately
that's what it will take. There are sooo many violations of regulations and
laws going on in that area right now that I think only that sort of
intensive volunteer effort is going to safeguard ORV use there. I am really
surprised there hasn't been a lawsuit to close the area so far. Anyway-
just my thoughts. Thank you for your efforts at cleaning up the area and
please pass my thanks on to the rest of the Association.
Apr 28, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Rob,
Thanks for the update. To be honest I have to agree with him about the amount of illegal activity that goes on up there and I am also suprised it hasn't been closed. I do believe that events like the cleanup are the only positive things that keep the area from being shutdown. Please keep us informed and let us know what we need to do to help (besides obviously not going up there or throwing things off the wall).
It would be nice if that area could get formal trail maps and name designations as well as posting signs for closed trails and tread lightly. Unfortunatly I know they would probably just get shot up.
Thanks for the update. To be honest I have to agree with him about the amount of illegal activity that goes on up there and I am also suprised it hasn't been closed. I do believe that events like the cleanup are the only positive things that keep the area from being shutdown. Please keep us informed and let us know what we need to do to help (besides obviously not going up there or throwing things off the wall).
It would be nice if that area could get formal trail maps and name designations as well as posting signs for closed trails and tread lightly. Unfortunatly I know they would probably just get shot up.
Apr 28, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Crash and a few others are spearheading an effort to put together a sort of "steering" comittee for Reiter. Cleanups, trail patrols, ride alongs for LEO's, etc. I will post back if anything comes of it.
Apr 28, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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From: Sammamish, WA
LOL the last time I drove that watery section, it was me and a few other pretty heavily modified Jeeps, and a guy in a 4Runner followed us just about everywhere. Then he very nearly hydrolocked his engine in that nasty water.
May 1, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Waterfall Climb
Nice clips dude!
How long did it take to get up the trail? Whereabouts in Washington is this trail? How do you determine whether your 4 runner will make it up or not...eghads, trial and error? I had no idea a vehicle was capable of tackling a trail like that!
Thanks for sharing!
Grounded
How long did it take to get up the trail? Whereabouts in Washington is this trail? How do you determine whether your 4 runner will make it up or not...eghads, trial and error? I had no idea a vehicle was capable of tackling a trail like that!
Thanks for sharing!
Grounded
May 1, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Grounded
Nice clips dude!
How long did it take to get up the trail? Whereabouts in Washington is this trail? How do you determine whether your 4 runner will make it up or not...eghads, trial and error? I had no idea a vehicle was capable of tackling a trail like that!
Thanks for sharing!
Grounded
How long did it take to get up the trail? Whereabouts in Washington is this trail? How do you determine whether your 4 runner will make it up or not...eghads, trial and error? I had no idea a vehicle was capable of tackling a trail like that!
Thanks for sharing!
Grounded
Its about an hour from Everett (which is about 1.5hrs from the boarder.) There are few of you guys from BC on the board. We should get a trip together on one side of the boarder or the other.
As for the difficulty of the trail our guide was familiar with the trail. I have also been down it a few times on the dirtbike (it is an ORV area). For this trail you need atleast 2.5" of lift, sliders, and no fear of denting your vehicle.
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