One Locker - should it go up front or in back?
06-02-2003, 07:37 AM
#1
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
One Locker - should it go up front or in back?
I'm thinking of having a locker installed and not sure if you're running just one locker, should it go up front or to the back. I searched around not finding an answer.
I was thinking put it up front. Is it better to have two locked tires pulling instead of two locked tires pushing? With snow/mud, two tires pushing might lead to sliding around.
Am I correct or still confused?
If you install a locker and have 33" tires, is it time to re-gear?
I was thinking put it up front. Is it better to have two locked tires pulling instead of two locked tires pushing? With snow/mud, two tires pushing might lead to sliding around.
Am I correct or still confused?
If you install a locker and have 33" tires, is it time to re-gear?
Trending Topics
06-02-2003, 10:08 PM
#10
Contributing Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Duvall, WA
Posts: 5,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
06-03-2003, 05:08 AM
#11
Contributing Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 5,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by WATRD
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
06-03-2003, 06:19 AM
#13
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Posts: 1,878
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by WATRD
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...
Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.
Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.
Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.
So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.
We are talking about axles and lockers, right?
So very well written, Rob!
06-03-2003, 07:05 AM
#15
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: MD
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Also, If you rely on 4 wheel drive for any snow driving (we get enough in Baltimore for that to be a concern)... having a full time locker in the front is a scary thing in the snow. remember when the wheels spin you lose traction - which in the front means you lose steering too.
I'd go with the rear.
I'd go with the rear.
06-03-2003, 07:09 AM
#16
Contributing Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Raleigh NC
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
wow, im slow. i had to read that twice to get the joke. anyway im thinking of doing the same thing. my question is what are the disadvantages to running a rear locked axle on pavement ? why should i pay 3x as much for a disengagable locker? i realize what a locker does, im just wondering if you drive carefully is it that bad? or will it wear down tires fast etc.
06-03-2003, 07:34 AM
#17
Contributing Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Duvall, WA
Posts: 5,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Joke?
There are three degrees of locked and each has advantages and disadvantages...
Selectable: Expensive, requires air, electricity or a cable to engage. Allows the diff to act like an "open" diff for good on road manners while still being hard locked for off road.
Automatic locker: Moderately priced, generally requires some level of wheel spin to lock up. Can be unpredictable in it's operation. Changes in on road handling are upsetting to some people. Odd sounding clicks and pops when cornering bother some people. Requiring some wheel spin to lock can be a big downside in the rocks. Some wheel hop and axle bind is possible. Tires may experience some additional wear.
Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.
There are three degrees of locked and each has advantages and disadvantages...
Selectable: Expensive, requires air, electricity or a cable to engage. Allows the diff to act like an "open" diff for good on road manners while still being hard locked for off road.
Automatic locker: Moderately priced, generally requires some level of wheel spin to lock up. Can be unpredictable in it's operation. Changes in on road handling are upsetting to some people. Odd sounding clicks and pops when cornering bother some people. Requiring some wheel spin to lock can be a big downside in the rocks. Some wheel hop and axle bind is possible. Tires may experience some additional wear.
Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.
06-03-2003, 10:05 AM
#18
Contributing Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by WATRD
J
Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.
J
Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.
Dan
06-03-2003, 10:13 AM
#19
Contributing Member
Originally posted by asudan96Runner
Don't do this unless you are driving on the trails 80% of the time or more. My roommate did this, and instead of paying $700 for a REAL locker he got to spend $700 on new tires in about 12 months.
Dan
Don't do this unless you are driving on the trails 80% of the time or more. My roommate did this, and instead of paying $700 for a REAL locker he got to spend $700 on new tires in about 12 months.
Dan
Pay now or pay later.
06-03-2003, 10:38 AM
#20
Contributing Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Brown
Excellent point.
Pay now or pay later.
Excellent point.
Pay now or pay later.
Dan
