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Roadrunner 06-02-2003 07:37 AM

One Locker - should it go up front or in back?
 
I'm thinking of having a locker installed and not sure if you're running just one locker, should it go up front or to the back. I searched around not finding an answer.

I was thinking put it up front. Is it better to have two locked tires pulling instead of two locked tires pushing? With snow/mud, two tires pushing might lead to sliding around.

Am I correct or still confused?

If you install a locker and have 33" tires, is it time to re-gear?

rimpainter.com 06-02-2003 07:38 AM

One locker = rear. Good luck. I want one too.

My Tacoma was freaking unstoppable with it.

WATRD 06-02-2003 07:48 AM

Rear. While your logic may make sense, unless you upgrade your CV axles, you will be putting a lot of strain on them with a front only locker.

Arnold 06-02-2003 07:53 AM

Another vote for a locked rear.:)

martin 06-02-2003 01:56 PM

Definately rear.

L33T35T 4Runner 06-02-2003 02:16 PM

again, rear

Roadrunner 06-02-2003 07:01 PM

Thanks.

4x4CPOSEADOG 06-02-2003 07:14 PM

I say rear. I'd rather be pushing than pulling.

Noel

doink 06-02-2003 08:29 PM

hmm, so i get the feeling that the majority of the people here like it in the rear..:drunk:

WATRD 06-02-2003 10:08 PM

Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...

Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.

Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.

Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.

So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.

We are talking about axles and lockers, right?

SLC Punk 06-03-2003 05:08 AM


Originally posted by WATRD
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...

Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.

Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.

Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.

So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.

We are talking about axles and lockers, right?

:lol:

keisur 06-03-2003 05:09 AM

I think you should send it to me. :D

HBoss 06-03-2003 06:19 AM


Originally posted by WATRD
Taken out of context, that could be misconstrued...

Let's just say that if you put it in the rear, it significantly decreases the chances of the front popping out little components that are completely unwanted and which are a clear sign that you didn't protect that front properly.

Of course, putting it in the front has it's advantages as well. The front tends to have easier access and it's simple to lube up. The rear installation requires the careful manipulation of the "third member" and there is often a considerable amount of preparation required before the process can even be begun, where in the front you can just insert it and be done with it.

Time wise, you can often be in and out of the front with a minimal investment of time, but the rear often turns out to be worthy of your efforts as well.

So, in summary, either way you go, you are a winner.

We are talking about axles and lockers, right?

:lol: :laugh: So very well written, Rob!

doink 06-03-2003 07:03 AM

:chairfall :lol: :good:

Bean 06-03-2003 07:05 AM

Also, If you rely on 4 wheel drive for any snow driving (we get enough in Baltimore for that to be a concern)... having a full time locker in the front is a scary thing in the snow. remember when the wheels spin you lose traction - which in the front means you lose steering too.

I'd go with the rear.

NCSU-4runner 06-03-2003 07:09 AM

wow, im slow. i had to read that twice to get the joke. anyway im thinking of doing the same thing. my question is what are the disadvantages to running a rear locked axle on pavement ? why should i pay 3x as much for a disengagable locker? i realize what a locker does, im just wondering if you drive carefully is it that bad? or will it wear down tires fast etc.

WATRD 06-03-2003 07:34 AM

Joke?

There are three degrees of locked and each has advantages and disadvantages...

Selectable: Expensive, requires air, electricity or a cable to engage. Allows the diff to act like an "open" diff for good on road manners while still being hard locked for off road.

Automatic locker: Moderately priced, generally requires some level of wheel spin to lock up. Can be unpredictable in it's operation. Changes in on road handling are upsetting to some people. Odd sounding clicks and pops when cornering bother some people. Requiring some wheel spin to lock can be a big downside in the rocks. Some wheel hop and axle bind is possible. Tires may experience some additional wear.

Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.

asudan96Runner 06-03-2003 10:05 AM


Originally posted by WATRD
J
Spool/Lincoln locker: CHEAP! Major changes in on road drivability. Axle will bind during cornering, resulting in some unpredictability to cornering and handling in general. Tires often suffer increased wear from cornering. Tight corners can result in major wheel hop.

Don't do this unless you are driving on the trails 80% of the time or more. My roommate did this, and instead of paying $700 for a REAL locker he got to spend $700 on new tires in about 12 months.

Dan

Brown 06-03-2003 10:13 AM


Originally posted by asudan96Runner
Don't do this unless you are driving on the trails 80% of the time or more. My roommate did this, and instead of paying $700 for a REAL locker he got to spend $700 on new tires in about 12 months.

Dan

Excellent point. :good:

Pay now or pay later.

asudan96Runner 06-03-2003 10:38 AM


Originally posted by Brown
Excellent point. :good:

Pay now or pay later.

Pay now, or keep paying over and over and over. My roommate went back to NO locker after he bought the new tires. That's an $$$ mistake to make.

Dan


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