Compressed Air Injection
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Compressed Air Injection
OK. My friend Jonathan (YotaTruck1986) and I came up with a pretty good idea. We were thinkin that we could get a little extra boost when we needed it (kind of like nitrous) by shooting compressed air into the air intake to speed up the airflow a little (kind of like a supercharger). So we made a diagram:
Here's how it would work:
1. You make sure that the valve on the intake (blue box in the diagram) is closed, and you open up the compressed air tank so that the hose fills up with a lot of pressurized air. Then you close the tank so that you can save up your air for another time you want a boost.
2. When you are driving along (this would probably work best at higher speeds when the air is flowing more quickly, but hey, what do i know) and you want a boost, you push the button, and this releases all of the pressurized air into the intake at the same time, speeding up the air, thus making you go faster.
First of all, I want to say that the diagram is not proportional at all. Secondly, we would probably have to do all sorts of math problems and junk to figure out exactly how big to make all of the tubes and nozzles so that this would make a difference at all.
If you see any potential problems, or have an good ideas, let me know. Thanks.
Here's how it would work:
1. You make sure that the valve on the intake (blue box in the diagram) is closed, and you open up the compressed air tank so that the hose fills up with a lot of pressurized air. Then you close the tank so that you can save up your air for another time you want a boost.
2. When you are driving along (this would probably work best at higher speeds when the air is flowing more quickly, but hey, what do i know) and you want a boost, you push the button, and this releases all of the pressurized air into the intake at the same time, speeding up the air, thus making you go faster.
First of all, I want to say that the diagram is not proportional at all. Secondly, we would probably have to do all sorts of math problems and junk to figure out exactly how big to make all of the tubes and nozzles so that this would make a difference at all.
If you see any potential problems, or have an good ideas, let me know. Thanks.
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i think for that to really work well you'd have to have a valve to seal off the air passage towards the air filter, or most of the pressure will just go in the wrong direction. interesting idea though
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I think that volume would be an issue also,or you would have to have alot of pressure for something like that to work. Also the duration would have to be long enough that it would probably take that full tank for you to use it effectively.
A little bit of nitrus makes a big boom, a little bit of air does nothing. jmo.
A little bit of nitrus makes a big boom, a little bit of air does nothing. jmo.
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This concept has been dabbled in before but it usually comes back to being a flawed idea. Super and turbochargers restrict the flow of air in the wrong direction, this method you speak of wouldn't be able to accomplish that. If you were to create a valve that blocked the normal airflow in favor or your compressed air you would need a tremendous amount of compressed air to power the engine alone.
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Thats what we were afraid of - even emptying a huge tank of compressed air might not make a difference because the engine takes in SO much air just from the stock intake. It looks like Nitrous Oxide might be the second closest option. Both systems are similar. We're tryin to cram more air in, so we can get more fuel in. Thats what NO does, right? But I don't think they make any NO kits for a 22RE. If anyone has any more suggestions or ideas about the compressed air system, please post.
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What are you trying to accomplish with this? There are alot of good mods you can do inorder to get more speed or boost when you need it with out going to a NOS.
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Originally Posted by RED 85
What are you trying to accomplish with this? There are alot of good mods you can do inorder to get more speed or boost when you need it with out going to a NOS.
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Red 85 is right about volume. The volumemetric effeciency using compressed air is near null compared to NOS. It would be a waste of time and energy to engineer it.
If you want you could stick the compressed air system on the exhaust side to help emissions. lol
If you want you could stick the compressed air system on the exhaust side to help emissions. lol
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Originally Posted by RED 85
Home made mods for the average Joe. do i hear a string of joke coming on?
Good concept though.
Good concept though.
Are there any universal NO2 kits? It's a pretty simple setup right?
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For the price of a nose kit you can get better kits to make your engine have more HP torque, and MPG, just look here
TCR
I am sure you'll be happy with what this will produce and if that is not enough than go for this:
TCR Pro Turbo
I could go on and on just look at that web site.
TCR
I am sure you'll be happy with what this will produce and if that is not enough than go for this:
TCR Pro Turbo
I could go on and on just look at that web site.
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Thanks for the replies. I'd like to look into the EFI Power Package, it looks like you get a lot of bang for your buck - Headers, Cam, Throttle Body Core, filter, and more! Thanks for the replies.
Regarding the Compressed Air system, I guess it's just not gona produce enough air or pressure fast enough or long enough to provide substantial boost?
Regarding the Compressed Air system, I guess it's just not gona produce enough air or pressure fast enough or long enough to provide substantial boost?
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