3B Diesel Swap
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3B Diesel Swap
I'm really just posting this to see everyones opinion on it. After having a look at my buddy's 4Runner with this motor in it this weekend, I'm pretty darned sure this is what I want to do for an engine.
He's got a 70 series 3B Landcruiser motor installed in his 85 Runner. Using a custom adapter he's still got his W56 transmission and dual Toyota t-cases. Now he wants to swap to the Landcruiser transmission.
I think from the get go I'll go with the Landcruiser transmission, H55, and an adapter from Marlin Crawler to run the gear driven case.
Stock it's got 90hp and 160 ft-lbs vs the 96hp and 129 ft-lbs of my 22R.
What's everyone think? I know it is a very uncommon swap, I only know of 2 people with it (my friend and someone is AUS).
What wiring is there with the 3B?
He's got a 70 series 3B Landcruiser motor installed in his 85 Runner. Using a custom adapter he's still got his W56 transmission and dual Toyota t-cases. Now he wants to swap to the Landcruiser transmission.
I think from the get go I'll go with the Landcruiser transmission, H55, and an adapter from Marlin Crawler to run the gear driven case.
Stock it's got 90hp and 160 ft-lbs vs the 96hp and 129 ft-lbs of my 22R.
What's everyone think? I know it is a very uncommon swap, I only know of 2 people with it (my friend and someone is AUS).
What wiring is there with the 3B?
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off the cuff - arent the 3B kinda heavy?
22R level numbers are easy to get from a VW TDI - a more modern engine that is smaller, lighter and easier to tune (depending on yer comfort with modern EFI and tuning tools).
VW TDI has more active aftermarket support.
VAG-COM can plug for easy tuning access.
22R level numbers are easy to get from a VW TDI - a more modern engine that is smaller, lighter and easier to tune (depending on yer comfort with modern EFI and tuning tools).
VW TDI has more active aftermarket support.
VAG-COM can plug for easy tuning access.
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VWs are wood, I worked for a dealership in high school and I've got friends who drive them. They are nice cars but I would never own one unless it had a warrenty.
3Bs weight isn't that bad, my buddy added a few leafs to his front pack and the truck is sitting even, still just as flexy too.
3Bs weight isn't that bad, my buddy added a few leafs to his front pack and the truck is sitting even, still just as flexy too.
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Talked to my friend who's done this swap.
So I can use a cable as a choke to increase or cut fuel when starting or shut down the motor instead of the EDIC.
Fuel system, there's not much to it. Fuel tank, fuel tranfer pump, fuel filters, water seperator and then run the main fuel line through all of it. There's no return line.
There's no computer because it's a mechanical diesel, the only real wiring is the glow plugs, push button and a big relay to run them.
Stock igniton switch can crank the motor over but you need the diesel starter relay.
Still need to figure out motor mounts, rad and what transmission to use. I'm hoping I can use the cruiser one if at all possible.
So I can use a cable as a choke to increase or cut fuel when starting or shut down the motor instead of the EDIC.
Fuel system, there's not much to it. Fuel tank, fuel tranfer pump, fuel filters, water seperator and then run the main fuel line through all of it. There's no return line.
There's no computer because it's a mechanical diesel, the only real wiring is the glow plugs, push button and a big relay to run them.
Stock igniton switch can crank the motor over but you need the diesel starter relay.
Still need to figure out motor mounts, rad and what transmission to use. I'm hoping I can use the cruiser one if at all possible.
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I am going with a bread truck 4B3.9 cummins in my 95 PU. Mating to a 700r4 and NP205 . Weight of cummins is around 700lb. What does the 3 bweigh vs the 22R or 3.0?
Doing SAS at same time so springs will be made to carry whatever final weight turns out to be.
Do it if you can get the components!
Doing SAS at same time so springs will be made to carry whatever final weight turns out to be.
Do it if you can get the components!
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Did this ever come to fruition? I'd look at the 5 cyl Merc turbo diesel myself if your truck was originally a 22re, the v6 trans sits too far forward and the engine bay isn't long enough for 5 cyl
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