4runnerJ

I've been looking around for a new engine for my 4runner. Someone recommended Oregon Engine Rebuilders, so i checked out their ebay store and saw the Super stock 3.0 and was wondering if anyone has any experience with this motor and is it a noticeable power difference over the stock motor? Or should I just go stock with headers?

dieselloco427

I actually just ordered one of these from them. I should be getting it early next week and have it installed a week or two afterwards. The RV cam adds more torque to the low end RPM range, and the oversized valves help keep power thoughout the entire RPM range. Hope this helps some. I'll be able to tell you my complete thoughts on the unit about mid May
Edit - btw - John (from Oregon Engines) recommends that you go with a 2 1/2" (but no less than 2 1/4") exhaust and a free flowing cat with this unit.

4runnerJ

Ya, thanks it helps a little. I wanted to get the super stock with headers, a free flowing cat and all that good stuff, but being a poor college student, I was wondering if it was worth the few extra dollars.

dieselloco427

I'm a broke college student myslef, so I hear ya! I actually had to take out a small loan from my bank to get this done.
I wouldn't worry about the headers - yes they sound nice and help a little bit with performance, but cost wise - quite pricy. I'm going to start an engine "upgrade" thread soon, or I might just tag on to the existing thread I had started after tearing my engine down.
FYI - Oregon Engines is about 2 weeks backed up right now, which is not a problem to me, rather have something buit right than thrown together quick. Thats the main reason I'm not rebuilding myself - no time between classes and 2 jobs.

phildelfino

How'd you figure out what they rebuild it with? I looked around their site and found nothing. Also looked around the e bay site and could not see any build specs.

Do they say what kind of HP numbers the "Super Build" has? any estimates?

dieselloco427

I contacted John at Oregon Engines - or at least thats who always replies to my emails and phone calls. I haven't asked about power numbers, but I'm going to have it dynoed when everything is put back together.

yotaman85

remember, headers on a 3vze are a good way to help with burned valves. the crossover is stupid restrictive and allows allot of heat to build up in that corner..

4runnerJ

Ya, this was one of the reasons why I wanted the headers.

Ya I'm trying to come up with the money now, I want to try and get it done over the summer. But I will keep an eye out for your engine "upgrade" tread.

Lex.Luther

Yotaman...have you dropped that Super Stock in yet? I have one sitting in my garage that my son and I will be working on putting into his '88 this weekend. So...i am kind of curious as to how things are going with yours.

Thanks.

safetyman

I emailed John the other day and he said that the Super Stock 3VZE makes 190 horsepower and 210 lb-ft of torque. Pretty impressive numbers if you ask me.

camo31_10.50

damn....don't believe they an make 190hp with rv cams and bigger valves....gotta be more to it than that.

although that is probably just a brake horsepower number, not a "to-the-wheels" dyno number....

lots of parasitic power loss goes on in a 4wd truck lol.

although now, i wouldn't mind having that kinda horsepower, that's up there above the 3.4 i believe.

dieselloco427

I'm having mine put on the dyno after it's put back together So time will tell if OERI's #'s are truthful

safetyman

When I got those numbers I immediately considered them to be numbers they got when they tested on an engine dyno. Like you, I really doubt that all of those 190 horses get to the wheels.

I guess we'll really see when dieselloco gets his on the dyno.

camo31_10.50

i bet it's not more than 10 hp, rv cams and over sized valves don't do much in terms of hp gains, the cams won't do more than move the power band, and make it a little broader.

now if it was bored about .050 over, do some serious port and polish, some "nice" cams (as in nasty cams, big lift and duration), a set of headers, bigger throttle body, get rid of the afm, in favor of a MAF sensor ( i believe...LOL) ISR mod, free flowing 2.25" exhaust (or 2.5") and you should be looking and some nice numbers.

if someone made a stroker kit for this motor, that'd be nice. lol

stroker kit, plus the above things. and you'd be looking at some nice numbers

i think the jeep inline 4.0 has a stroker kit that takes it out to 4.6, and it makes considerable gains

MaK92-4RnR

andddd how many miles would you get to a gallon... hmmm uhhh ugghhh lets say....... 8-10? and thats being respectful.... lol

dieselloco427

hehe - I'd think I'd op for an engine swap instead of stroking a 3VZ-E...

MaK92-4RnR

lol im going for a swap no matter what happens to my 3vz. sell off my headers and put the stock manifolds back on... sell the whole engine complete.

safetyman

But you already went with the rebuilt 3.0 .

dieselloco427

Yeah - but if I were to think about stroking out an engine - I don't think It would be a VeeZee...

safetyman

You're right. If I were to mod a motor to that extent, I would definitely think about subbing another motor for my 3.0.